Help me with a cold weather sleep system

[Joshuajosh]

I currently own a seek outside U-turn stove and a floor-less tipi, me and a buddy are doing a hunt this November in an area that gets down to about 10° at night, what should I go with in terms of sleeping gear? What type of bag should I go with? Should I go with a sleeping pad directly on the ground? I have only slept outside down to about 35° and I don’t want to end up in a situation wishing I had more. I was thinking I could get away with a higher end insulated sleeping pad and sleeping bag, but I wasn’t sure of what exactly to buy. Lmk what you suggest.

 

[taskswap]

1. Buy the highest R-value sleeping pad you can afford (NeoAir NXT) regardless of the expected temps.
2. Figure your lowest overnight temps, subtract 10F for safety.
3. Subtract another 15F to go from "survival" to "comfort".
4. Buy the best-reviewed sleeping bag or quilt at that rating.
5. Buy a $20 pair of generic "down" booties off Amazon.
6. Chuck a pair of toe warmers in them before bed.
7. Skip the stove.
8. Laugh at all your friends who say "last night sure was cold, I hardly slept"

 

[Joshuajosh]

So if I’m aiming to camp at 10° buy a -15° or -20°? Would that still be comfortable to use at say 30°? Or would I be drenched in sweat.

 

[WeiserBucks]

So if I’m aiming to camp at 10° buy a -15° or -20°? Would that still be comfortable to use at say 30°? Or would I be drenched in sweat.

A quality zero bag on an Xtherm would be fine at 10 degrees and cook you at 30

 

[Joshuajosh]

Sounds like I’ll have to get a separate bag then for 30. Do you have any suggestions on the bag?

 

[WeiserBucks]

I have a FF zero and a 20 from them too. Covers my bases

 

[mtnbound]

I currently own a seek outside U-turn stove and a floor-less tipi, me and a buddy are doing a hunt this November in an area that gets down to about 10° at night, what should I go with in terms of sleeping gear? What type of bag should I go with? Should I go with a sleeping pad directly on the ground? I have only slept outside down to about 35° and I don’t want to end up in a situation wishing I had more. I was thinking I could get away with a higher end insulated sleeping pad and sleeping bag, but I wasn’t sure of what exactly to buy. Lmk what you suggest.

I’ll ignore the fact that you have a stove for now.
I don’t like to put my pad directly on the ground. I usually will use a tarp or something else then put the pad on it. Get a 5-7R rated pad and I would use a 20-25 degree quilt. Buy a set of puffy pants and jacket for more insulation while sleeping.
Back to the stove they are great during the late season but they do require a lot of wood, so make sure you put your camp close to decent wood sources.

 

[Joshuajosh]

I’ll ignore the fact that you have a stove for now.
I don’t like to put my pad directly on the ground. I usually will use a tarp or something else then put the pad on it. Get a 5-7R rated pad and I would use a 20-25 degree quilt. Buy a set of puffy pants and jacket for more insulation while sleeping.
Back to the stove they are great during the late season but they do require a lot of wood, so make sure you put your camp close to decent wood sources.

Any quilt recommendations? I have the kifaru lost park puffy, could pick up the pants as well. Sounds like a decent option.

 

[ianpadron]

10 ain't even cold! Get a western mountaineering or feathered friends 0 degree and a high R value pad, slap a thermarest foam pad under it to protect your inflatable, you won't even need the stove

 

[Pilsner]

High R value pad
Stone Glacier Chillikote 0 degree bag or similar. Lay it open quilt style and be comfy up to maybe 30 degrees.
Won't even need the stove as many have said.

 

[MTJake]

Get the highest R value pad you can. I have an outdoor vitals 0° bag, and quality pad. It’s great down below zero. I also keep one of those foam accordion pads for sitting on to glass. I throw that under my pad for a little extra insulation.

 

[LongWayAround]

Cot, closed cell foam pad, good r-value inflatable pad, 0° or 15° down bag.

Fill a nalgene with hot water or throw a hand warmer in.

You can easily take a 15-20° bag lower if you layer puffy gear inside and use some extra warmers.