Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[Schmo]

I understand there are theoretical advantages to different thumb placement, but I have a hard time understanding why you want to market for a particular style.

Because it is something that’s really appreciated by a lot of experienced users. There are too many stocks on the market that didn’t have adequate thought put into the grip design. Very long trigger reach being the most glaring example.

 

[hereinaz]

I understand there are theoretical advantages to different thumb placement, but I have a hard time understanding why you want to market for a particular style.

Agreed, not marketing to a particular style. I am trying to stay true to the Master Sporter grip as far as possible.

I am also trying to understand variations in preference/styles and see the most universal design. I still think the common design that flows from the palm swell to the tang is the best.

I think we may do the ambidextrous version. Form follows function, which is why many stock designs have changed. I think some old ideas persist though, like finger to trigger and LOP.

Also, I am definitely not a stock designer, so exploring for things I don’t know I don’t know.

 

[Schmo]

I think we may do the ambidextrous version.

That’s what I’d like to have. Seems like that version would allow the most options for different gripping methods

 

[Gstew1930]

Agreed, not marketing to a particular style. I am trying to stay true to the Master Sporter grip as far as possible.

I am also trying to understand variations in preference/styles and see the most universal design. I still think the common design that flows from the palm swell to the tang is the best.

I think we may do the ambidextrous version. Form follows function, which is why many stock designs have changed. I think some old ideas persist though, like finger to trigger and LOP.

Also, I am definitely not a stock designer, so exploring for things I don’t know I don’t know.

how would an ambi MS grip work? I'm having a hard time picturing that in my head

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Because it is something that’s really appreciated by a lot of experienced users. There are too many stocks on the market that didn’t have adequate thought put into the grip design. Very long trigger reach being the most glaring example.

All I am saying is, I would not make it only useable if you use a specific grip. I agree that average trigger reach has an optimal range, but if you make a stock for a hunting rifle that forces thumb inline with bore, you won’t necessarily be making a good hunting stock.

I have hunted with traditional rifle stocks for 40+ years and the Rokstok for only eight months. But I could immediately transition to the Rokstok and shoot very well without ever changing a lifetime of habits. That thumb in line with bore grip has never given *me* more control or stability.

The comment about the 1911 is really what spurred me to comment. I loathe the grip on the 1911. Maybe it’s because I have skinny hands, but I can’t get a proper, comfortable grip on it. Unlike for instance, a Browning M1935, Sig P226, or Beretta M92. But if you are part of the 1911 cult, what I just said is probably blasphemy.

I just think there is a point where your inputs in this thread have gotten too technical and specialized.

 

[lefthandedasian]

I'm in for a lefty version if/when they're made. If you guys are planning to make a dedicated lefty would there even be a need for an ambi grip? I could see a reason for ambi for some older actions that don't come in lefty, but especially with tikkas there are lots of opportunities for us wrong handers to get into a dedicated lefty action.

I could see how ambi would simplify the production though. ie: every stock is built the same, just the bolt cut out changes sides.

 

[Schmo]

That thumb in line with bore grip has never given *me* more control or stability.

That’s because the thumb in line with the bore isn’t supposed to give you more control, but less. It is not optimal to have to force the gun into position with you grip hand. You should utilize NPA to establish aim. The thumb in line with the bore helps you keep from torquing the grip.