Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[Kyguy]

Personally, I really like the Boyd’s spike camp. I know there have been some anti thumbhole comments on here, but when the hole gets a certain size I don’t think it matters as much.
Raise the comb a little, flatten the toe, and make the grip a little more vertical. Not your average thumb hole. Works fine for right and left handers. Could even add a second window in the butt.
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So you want to make the Spike Camp into the Boyd's Quest? LOL

 

[hibernation]

GRS Hunter Light - GRS Riflestocks

GRS Hunter Light stock is 25% lighter than all other GRS laminate models. A 5% scaled-down grip and length of pull make it our shortest and slimmest stock...

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Interesting that this design hasn't been mentioned yet. It's a pretty reasonable weight, laminated, vertical grip. If the butt/comb were raised a bit, and the finger ridges on the grip eliminated, this would be pretty much exactly what I would want.

 

[hibernation]

At this point maybe they should just do like a Boyd's Pro Varmint base - but with the forend narrowed and shortened and the buttstock being nothing but a 3" tall by 1.25" wide core of material with threaded studs on the top and bottom and back.

Then offer 3D printed adapters that allow users to set LOP, comb height and angle, toe angle, forend length, and so on, using those studs. Buy the base stock and then choose your adapters like interchangeable handgun grips. Offer every base stock with one option for each 3d printed module then sell others at hefty retail prices so guys that really wanted to experiment could order them one at a time. Shape the 3D printed comb right and you could even allow it to be mounted up top then the recoil pad be able to shift higher on the base-stock and have its top mounting screw go into a stud on the 3d printed comb module.

The modules would be lighter than the laminated wood itself, likely.

Like so:

This could be the base stock:

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Then add modules:

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I'm not a stock designer, so, yes, those are 5-minute efforts in MSpaint.

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If they're going that modular, I'd rather just have them inlet a laminated blank and let me shape the rest.

 

[ezwy]

So you want to make the Spike Camp into the Boyd's Quest? LOL

sort of.... I dont think the comb is any higher on the quest. I wouldnt call that a flat toe, and hogging out more wood is the point of two windows, not making the thumb hole smaller.
the quest adds angles with no added benefit. the spike camp is a slight negative comb and the quest is flat.

 

[Nine Banger]

GRS Hunter Light - GRS Riflestocks

GRS Hunter Light stock is 25% lighter than all other GRS laminate models. A 5% scaled-down grip and length of pull make it our shortest and slimmest stock...

grsriflestocks.com

Interesting that this design hasn't been mentioned yet. It's a pretty reasonable weight, laminated, vertical grip. If the butt/comb were raised a bit, and the finger ridges on the grip eliminated, this would be pretty much exactly what I would want.

This one is closer to the goal but still a swing and a miss.

https://www.eurooptic.com/grs-sporter-tikka-t3-t3x-orangeblack-104573

 

[Bluumoon]

Looks like the GRS suggests bedding, I suspect that’s something this project would benefit from too.

 

[rbutcher1234]

This thread seems like a mess. I’d rather have y’all just make a 1:1 copy of the master sporter/tikka sporter stock. I love how it shoots, it’s not too heavy, it looks awesome. They’re too hard to get. Literally just make the master sporter stock.

 

[Schmo]

I’d rather have y’all just make a 1:1 copy of the master sporter/tikka sporter stock. I love how it shoots, it’s not too heavy, it looks awesome.

Not too heavy? The MS 58 ounces…

 

[Gstew1930]

I like the original rendering you put up, add the MS grip. keep some of the rest like the bravo, raise the recoil pad above bore line & round off the fore end. i think it would be around 35-40oz & make a really good shooting stock.

 

[hereinaz]

Personally, I really like the Boyd’s spike camp. I know there have been some anti thumbhole comments on here, but when the hole gets a certain size I don’t think it matters as much.
Raise the comb a little, flatten the toe, and make the grip a little more vertical. Not your average thumb hole. Works fine for right and left handers. Could even add a second window in the butt.
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This is one of the options I thought about to make it ambidextrous. I like the idea of it, with a big window it is pretty fast and easy.

Might make one eventually.

 

[hereinaz]

I like the original rendering you put up, add the MS grip. keep some of the rest like the bravo, raise the recoil pad above bore line & round off the fore end. i think it would be around 35-40oz & make a really good shooting stock.

That is right where we are looking to land. Hopefully shave weight to get it as light as possible.

 

[Bluumoon]

I like the original rendering you put up, add the MS grip. keep some of the rest like the bravo, raise the recoil pad above bore line & round off the fore end. i think it would be around 35-40oz & make a really good shooting stock.

You think the avg shooter would like the MS grip? I had my wife hold a few different rifles last night, she picked the MS as most “comfortable”, she’s not a shooter though.

My thought is it’s hard not to like and if you want to offer something not widely available, it seems to be that anyway.

 

[rbutcher1234]

You think the avg shooter would like the MS grip? I had my wife hold a few different rifles last night, she picked the MS as most “comfortable”, she’s not a shooter though.

My thought is it’s hard not to like and if you want to offer something not widely available, it seems to be that anyway.

The MS grip is phenomenal.

 

[Gstew1930]

You think the avg shooter would like the MS grip? I had my wife hold a few different rifles last night, she picked the MS as most “comfortable”, she’s not a shooter though.

My thought is it’s hard not to like and if you want to offer something not widely available, it seems to be that anyway.

Yeah man I think it would be a hit. Also saying that I have very very little experience with a MS. But I do think it would be nice

 

[9.3koolaid]

With laminate, could you mill in arca into the forend?

 

[Schmo]

With laminate, could you mill in arca into the forend?

Edit because my reading comprehension was bad: if you mean milling the laminate to be its own Arca, I’m pretty sure that wouldn’t hold up.

 

[ChrisAU]

With laminate, could you mill in arca into the forend?

Eh I’m not sure how that would stand up to being clamped. I’d be much more inclined to recess the foreend the length of the desired rail and attach an aluminum rail via screw.

 

[Schmo]

Eh I’m not sure how that would stand up to being clamped. I’d be much more inclined to recess the foreend the length of the desired rail and attach an aluminum rail via screw.

My bad. Your solution is what I thought he meant.

No, the laminate wouldn’t hold up to being the Arca itself

 

[hereinaz]

Here is the rough design. Bravo butt is in orange.

It is basically a Bravo forend, with Master Sporter grip and trigger reach of about 1.6-1.7”. It has a flat parallel forend and toe for bag riding like some Benchrest and F-class.

Overall, this will be made a bit longer/bigger so that it can be cut, rasped, sanded and shaped.

It will have a lightly rounded but boxy forend like Bravo, with 9” long forearm, 1” shorter than Bravo. It will be squarish to ride bags, but curved enough for easy carry. You will be able to shorten to 7” if you want.

The butt is the same 5” tall as the Bravo, but lines are straightened out with the flat toe. Back end is parallel so you can cut the LOP shorter and butt pad still fits. The comb slopes negative very gently starting above the window and running down sufficient to pull the bolt. You can see it is higher than the Bravo by about 1/4 inch relative to bore.

I will cut a slight angle in my toe to match the Bravo. I think you can also cut a butt hook.

I think we will have them made all 14.5 LOP. The butt pad and stock are designed square so that it is easy to cut off a chunk and the butt pad still fits.

We are wondering how many of you want to test it long and then cut off? I think we can offer to cut to any length. We would include the cut off to use as a spacer if you wanted.

The Master Sporter grip is not ambidextrous, so it will be for righties, but we are going to see about doing them left handed. We just need numbers of course.

Comments?

 

[Gstew1930]

Here is the rough design. Bravo butt is in orange.

It is basically a Bravo forend, with Master Sporter grip and trigger reach of about 1.6-1.7”. It has a flat parallel forend and toe for bag riding like some Benchrest and F-class.

Overall, this will be made a bit longer/bigger so that it can be cut, rasped, sanded and shaped.

It will have a lightly rounded but boxy forend like Bravo, with 9” long forearm, 1” shorter than Bravo. It will be squarish to ride bags, but curved enough for easy carry. You will be able to shorten to 7” if you want.

The butt is the same 5” tall as the Bravo, but lines are straightened out with the flat toe. Back end is parallel so you can cut the LOP shorter and butt pad still fits. The comb slopes negative very gently starting above the window and running down sufficient to pull the bolt. You can see it is higher than the Bravo by about 1/4 inch relative to bore.

I will cut a slight angle in my toe to match the Bravo. I think you can also cut a butt hook.

I think we will have them made all 14.5 LOP. The butt pad and stock are designed square so that it is easy to cut off a chunk and the butt pad still fits.

We are wondering how many of you want to test it long and then cut off? I think we can offer to cut to any length. We would include the cut off to use as a spacer if you wanted.

The Master Sporter grip is not ambidextrous, so it will be for righties, but we are going to see about doing them left handed. We just need numbers of course.

Comments?

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Sounds great! How about the barrel channel? Are you doing multiple or just like a proof sendero?