Heavy bullets in 30-06

[35WhelenAI]

I would very much back that load with RL17 off a bit with a 200 gr bullet.

 

[Outdoorsman12b]

I have a couple more seasons now with a nearly identical load. Taken additional sheep, moose, and caribou with it since I posted earlier in the thread. Performance has continued to be consistent. Big bloody holes and pass throughs. I haven't recovered a bullet yet, but plenty of copper pieces around the wound channel.

It does kick hard for a 30-06 and I believe it's on the ragged edge of pressure to hit 2700 fps out of my barrel. I'd never notice the difference at 2650, and would have more margin. Will probably redevelop the load at some point with a different powder when my stock of RL-17 runs out.

Yk

YK did you ever get back to a load with this? I just picked up a tikka 06 and am thinking of loading the 200 eldx up for elk/moose. Out of curiosity how much velocity did you bleed in the cold with Ramshot hunter? They claim only 5-10% variance on the extremes.

 

[gerry35]

I loaded the 200 gr Accubond with H 4350 for around 2550 fps, was super accurate. I'll probably try a different powder for more speed the next time I get a 30-06. In my last 30-06 I tried a max charge of RL22 with the 220 gr Partition at 2500 fps that was pretty accurate. We loved that bullet for grizzlies in the salmon spawning creeks with our 30 cal magnums at 2700 fps. A bullet I would take a hard look at these days would be the Nosler 190 gr ABLR. Should work amazing at longer ranges in a 30-06.

 

[madcalfe]

why not just use 180gr accubonds?
all I use in my 300wsm and defiantly never felt the reason to shoot 200gr.
if I could find some 165gr ABLR that's what id be using in my 300wsm instead of the 178gr eldx's

 

[gerry35]

why not just use 180gr accubonds?
all I use in my 300wsm and defiantly never felt the reason to shoot 200gr.
if I could find some 165gr ABLR that's what id be using in my 300wsm instead of the 178gr eldx's

Those 180's are good too, I shot one goat with them and some deer. Nothing wrong with the heavier bullets though especially if you don't shoot much past say 400 yards or so. Here with our thick brush having a bit more penetration on moose would be preffered.

BTW I see some 168 gr ABLR at Bashaw sports, I assume that's what you meant instead of 165 gr. Expensive but should be awesome for long range sheep and goat.

 

[Outdoorsman12b]

why not just use 180gr accubonds?
all I use in my 300wsm and defiantly never felt the reason to shoot 200gr.
if I could find some 165gr ABLR that's what id be using in my 300wsm instead of the 178gr eldx's

Don’t know where you are but where I am Accubond and partition are hard to come by. Plus the price is out of control on them now.

 

[madcalfe]

Those 180's are good too, I shot one goat with them and some deer. Nothing wrong with the heavier bullets though especially if you don't shoot much past say 400 yards or so. Here with our thick brush having a bit more penetration on moose would be preffered.

BTW I see some 168 gr ABLR at Bashaw sports, I assume that's what you meant instead of 165 gr. Expensive but should be awesome for long range sheep and goat.

i see your in skeena region. im in PG and regularly hunt region 6 and 7B. and yea i meant the 168's. would be perfect combo for my 20" barreled 300wsm. ill check out Banshaw and try and order some up!

 

[Outdoorsman12b]

Those 180's are good too, I shot one goat with them and some deer. Nothing wrong with the heavier bullets though especially if you don't shoot much past say 400 yards or so. Here with our thick brush having a bit more penetration on moose would be preffered.

BTW I see some 168 gr ABLR at Bashaw sports, I assume that's what you meant instead of 165 gr. Expensive but should be awesome for long range sheep and goat.

Thanks for heads up just grabbed last box.

 

[gerry35]

i see your in skeena region. im in PG and regularly hunt region 6 and 7B. and yea i meant the 168's. would be perfect combo for my 20" barreled 300wsm. ill check out Banshaw and try and order some up!

Awesome. It's definitely more brushy here so that's why I would like a heavy bullet in a 30-06. Shot my first moose with a 220 gr Silvertip and second with a 180 gr Speer G.S. bullet, both worked. A good 200 kind of combines the best of both.

 

[Elite]

I recently played around with H4350 and 200grn eldx bullets and got a average of 2649fps at max load. No pressure signs tho and a 22” proof barrel. I have some 190ablr I’ll be hunting with tho. Seems like those eldx bullets fragment like crazy.


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[gerry35]

I recently played around with H4350 and 200grn eldx bullets and got a average of 2649fps at max load. No pressure signs tho and a 22” proof barrel. I have some 190ablr I’ll be hunting with tho. Seems like those eldx bullets fragment like crazy.


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The 200 gr ELD-X must have a different bearing surface to get 100 fps over the 200 gr Accubond H 4350 load I mentioned earlier. Maybe I should have tried another 1 gr of H 4350 and see what happened. That 190 gr ABLR should be a good one. Just checked Nosler's data on it and it's impressive, over 2700 fps with a high b.c. bullet.. Surprisingly with their 210 ABLR they are getting over 2600 fps with it! They must have a pretty short bearing surface too compared to the Accubond.

 

[Elite]

The 200 gr ELD-X must have a different bearing surface to get 100 fps over the 200 gr Accubond H 4350 load I mentioned earlier. Maybe I should have tried another 1 gr of H 4350 and see what happened. That 190 gr ABLR should be a good one. Just checked Nosler's data on it and it's impressive, over 2700 fps with a high b.c. bullet.. Surprisingly with their 210 ABLR they are getting over 2600 fps with it! They must have a pretty short bearing surface too compared to the Accubond.

Very well could be. Would be nice to have 2 chronographs to verify they are accurate. I need to get to the range where I can shoot 700 yards and do some verifying with bullet drop


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[49ereric]

Remington 721-722 barrels were great!
I just hope you had to rebarrel otherwise a fine waste of a well known accurate barrel.

 

[Yellowknife]

YK did you ever get back to a load with this? I just picked up a tikka 06 and am thinking of loading the 200 eldx up for elk/moose. Out of curiosity how much velocity did you bleed in the cold with Ramshot hunter? They claim only 5-10% variance on the extremes.

10% variance is about 260 fps. That’s a LOT.

I don’t recall the exact drop I saw, but it was notably over 100 fps loss when shooting in sub zero. Above freezing, it seemed pretty stable.

I’m still using RL-17 with that bullet and took another moose this year. Pretty well out of that load now, and will likely switch to either H4350 or H4831 going forward simply due to availability.

To far as the question asked by others about just using a good 180 gr, the 200 ELD-X became my load of choice mostly due to availability. They were regularly on the shelf, reasonably priced, and shot very well. Nothing wrong with a good 180 in an ‘06, but those 200’s were what I could buy locally and I’ve had no reason to regret the choice.

 

[Outdoorsman12b]

10% variance is about 260 fps. That’s a LOT.

I don’t recall the exact drop I saw, but it was notably over 100 fps loss when shooting in sub zero. Above freezing, it seemed pretty stable.

I’m still using RL-17 with that bullet and took another moose this year. Pretty well out of that load now, and will likely switch to either H4350 or H4831 going forward simply due to availability.

To far as the question asked by others about just using a good 180 gr, the 200 ELD-X became my load of choice mostly due to availability. They were regularly on the shelf, reasonably priced, and shot very well. Nothing wrong with a good 180 in an ‘06, but those 200’s were what I could buy locally and I’ve had no reason to regret the choice.

Thanks that’s why I ask. Sounds like you were more in the 5% range.

 

[Paul Shirek]

Shot this 300 lb bear with a 220 grain core lokt from my 3006 model 70. Hit was in the chest and a good shot. He jumped straight up and dropped in his tracks, never even twitched. I used these because I wanted good penetration and damage if I got a big bear. Although this was a more of a medium bear, it is much more than a deer and I was very pleased with the 220 grains. I am hoping to begin hand loading and am really appreciating learning from you all...