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I have not had a MDT in hand, but in looking at the specs, the Hatch goes lower, is lighter, and $600 less money!Have you compared the hatch to a MDT triple pull?
I have not had a MDT in hand, but in looking at the specs, the Hatch goes lower, is lighter, and $600 less money!Have you compared the hatch to a MDT triple pull?
I have not. The last MDT I was around was an older model…not the triple pull.Have you compared the hatch to a MDT triple pull?
The hatch bipod’s ability to go low is one of of them most underrated parts about it! I use it all the time!I have not had a MDT in hand, but in looking at the specs, the Hatch goes lower, is lighter, and $600 less money!
Had a hatch and took 3 deer this past year over 400 yards each with it. But I ended up selling it due to multiple areas of not being totally satisfied and replaced it with a mtn gear bipod and tripod setup. Will try this setup this year and see how it goes.I’m in the market right now, and the Hatch is at the top of my list.
My main goal is short setup time and the Hatch’s versatility is what makes me lean in that direction. I’ve never much liked bipods (or tripods) in the field for that reason, and I’ve been toying around with a bag setup but their weight pushed me back to this internal debate.
Are you saying there’s enough play to affect accuracy to a meaningful degree? I’d hate to buy one then regret it. Having never used one, it’s tough to wrap my head around the issues being described.
I don’t think it affects accuracy to a meaningful degree in a hunting situation. My only gripe with hatch is that it’s harder to get a heavy preload due to the rotating legs and lack of spiked feet.I’m in the market right now, and the Hatch is at the top of my list.
My main goal is short setup time and the Hatch’s versatility is what makes me lean in that direction. I’ve never much liked bipods (or tripods) in the field for that reason, and I’ve been toying around with a bag setup but their weight pushed me back to this internal debate.
Are you saying there’s enough play to affect accuracy to a meaningful degree? I’d hate to buy one then regret it. Having never used one, it’s tough to wrap my head around the issues being described.
Affect accuracy meaningfully? Probably not, especially with a little pre load. It’s just annoying because it would have been easy to improve upon the engineering to make it so much better, yet that didn’t happen.I’m in the market right now, and the Hatch is at the top of my list.
My main goal is short setup time and the Hatch’s versatility is what makes me lean in that direction. I’ve never much liked bipods (or tripods) in the field for that reason, and I’ve been toying around with a bag setup but their weight pushed me back to this internal debate.
Are you saying there’s enough play to affect accuracy to a meaningful degree? I’d hate to buy one then regret it. Having never used one, it’s tough to wrap my head around the issues being described.
I spoke with the owner of Hatch the other day and he's working on a prototype currently that addresses some of the complaints. I didn't get many details but I talked to him about getting me one to test prior to release. I need to reach back out to him to see what he decided.Affect accuracy meaningfully? Probably not, especially with a little pre load. It’s just annoying because it would have been easy to improve upon the engineering to make it so much better, yet that didn’t happen.
The friction washer and screw that hold the legs on is ridiculous. It’s THE problem. I hope it’s replaced with a button. I’m glad it’s being addressed, but it also should have been done right the first time!I spoke with the owner of Hatch the other day and he's working on a prototype currently that addresses some of the complaints. I didn't get many details but I talked to him about getting me one to test prior to release. I need to reach back out to him to see what he decided.
I would be open to it again if there are improvements made. But it was pretty heavy, clunky to use, and hunting in low 20s in would freeze and I couldn’t even deploy the legs. Pretty frustrating…I spoke with the owner of Hatch the other day and he's working on a prototype currently that addresses some of the complaints. I didn't get many details but I talked to him about getting me one to test prior to release. I need to reach back out to him to see what he decided.
Again, that silly friction washer. I didn’t have that problem hunting down into the single digits, but I can definitely see how it could happen.I would be open to it again if there are improvements made. But it was pretty heavy, clunky to use, and hunting in low 20s in would freeze and I couldn’t even deploy the legs. Pretty frustrating…
PM sent.Again, that silly friction washer. I didn’t have that problem hunting down into the single digits, but I can definitely see how it could happen.
How many things come out perfect on the first try? Zero. You could always build the perfect bipod and let others use it and see how many are in 100% agreement. Odds of that are probably going to be zero. I like the Hatch, really like the tripod adapter leg they came out with they showed at the Expo. Would eliminate some redundancy with carrying both a tripod and a bipod, only need one now to do 99% of what I do. There's just no one sized fits all for everyone. Spartan makes great bipods too, but they're not perfect either. Ckye pods are nice, but $$$ and not perfect either.The friction washer and screw that hold the legs on is ridiculous. It’s THE problem. I hope it’s replaced with a button. I’m glad it’s being addressed, but it also should have been done right the first time!
Understood and in most cases I’d agree, except in this case, it’s so obvious. Doesn’t take an engineering degree to realize that when a screw and a plastic washer is the main attachment point of your leg, then you are going to need a different mechanism to make the leg actuate/fold. I think most anyone can see how it would present problems to make the attachment point also your actuation system. Tighten the screw too tight (but stable) and the leggy no worky! Loosen the screw so that it works and the leggy too wobbly!How many things come out perfect on the first try? Zero. You could always build the perfect bipod and let others use it and see how many are in 100% agreement. Odds of that are probably going to be zero. I like the Hatch, really like the tripod adapter leg they came out with they showed at the Expo. Would eliminate some redundancy with carrying both a tripod and a bipod, only need one now to do 99% of what I do. There's just no one sized fits all for everyone. Spartan makes great bipods too, but they're not perfect either. Ckye pods are nice, but $$$ and not perfect either.
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