hammocks for hunt

[twall13]

So the clark mark 2 can go to the ground also. What do you guys recommend for underneath insulation. Since this hammock can be setup as a bivy on the ground if needed. I mean are you basically stuck with having to us a pad then just in case you have to go to the ground with it.

When I first started I worried a lot more about the "what if I have to go to ground" scenario and even bought a double layer hammock for my pad. I've found that more often than not it's really not an issue and if it is going to be an issue I pretty much know ahead of time whether or not I would have to go to ground. For me, the inconvenience of a pad isn't worth the slight chance I might need it. I'd rather bring extra rope and rig up a stand or hang from some rocks, etc. You have to decide what works best for you and the only real way to do that is through experience. I found that for me, having a kit that can go to ground is a nice thought, but in reality I'd much rather find a way to hang, even if it's not the best setup. I do not go to ground unless I absolutely have to.

 

[NJDiverDan]

I am currently using a Dream Hammock 11'. I have a Underground Quilts under quilt and a EE top. I also have an older Clark but like the Dream Hammock better. Using a 12' Kelty Noah Tarp but would like to upgrade this to something lighter. All in I weigh 4-8 ounces more than my Megatarp set up.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

Do any of you hammock guys find it necessary to use any type of Bug netting?
I have my eye on a couple of hammocks it don't know if netting is necessary.

 

[twall13]

It depends on where you are at and what time of year it is but there are certainly times when you want one. They can be added to any hammock after but some come with built in zippered nets. I prefer an independent net so I can just leave it at home when I don't need it and save the weight.

Do any of you hammock guys find it necessary to use any type of Bug netting?
I have my eye on a couple of hammocks it don't know if netting is necessary.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

Twall,
I'm thinking archery season (sept/oct) me Montana.
Just trying to decide between hammock or floorless tarps system.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

Drinking auto correct.....NW Montana.

 

[twall13]

Twall,
I'm thinking archery season (sept/oct) me Montana.
Just trying to decide between hammock or floorless tarps system.

Sept.-Oct. you might be fine without a bug net. It should be cool enough by then at higher elevations that the bugs won't be out at night. It can vary by area though so no guarantees. When you think about it, most of your body is protected by your sleeping bag/quilt. It would just be your head that gets eaten so you could always wear just a head net to sleep and save weight if you are concerned about it. I never cared for the head net but it's an option if you aren't sure on the bug situation.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

I am looking at the BB XLC, but could save tons of $$ and weight by going another direction. Thanks for the info guys!

 

[stuckbuck]

I am looking at the BB XLC, but could save tons of $$ and weight by going another direction. Thanks for the info guys!

I have the double layer 1.7 fabric.
I would go with the lighter fabric in a single layer if I had a do over.


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[MTBOWHUNTER542]

I am leaning single layer 1.7. Do oh use TQ & UQ? Which ones?

 

[Seth1913]

If you're lookig for a lighter hammock check out BUTT IN A SLING hammocks or hummingbird hammocks! They hold me up at 210 with no worries.

 

[twall13]

I am leaning single layer 1.7. Do oh use TQ & UQ? Which ones?

For hammock top quilts and underquilts Hammock Gear is a pretty good balance between cost and performance.. Enlightened equipment, underground quilts, and locolibregear all make great gear as well. I feel Wilderness Logics makes excellent gear for the price but it will be slightly heavier on average than the others I've mentioned.

All of the above vendors make down quilts. If you want synthetic I'd look at Locolibregear or Arrowhead Equipment. Lots of options out there, it just depends on what requirements you have.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

I'm going with loco libre top and bottom quilts, warbonnet winter tarp with doors, but haven't settled on hammock just yet. Simply lite design, dream, or warbonnet are my final 3 contenders......so far.

 

[twall13]

I'm going with loco libre top and bottom quilts, warbonnet winter tarp with doors, but haven't settled on hammock just yet. Simply lite design, dream, or warbonnet are my final 3 contenders......so far.

I think those are solid choices on the quilts and tarp. Those are 3 good vendors for hammocks as well. I'd recommend an 11' long hammock whichever company you go with.

 

[MTBOWHUNTER542]

No doubt. Thinking11' x 66" wide. Should be pretty comfortable.

 

[stuckbuck]

I am currently using a Dream Hammock 11'. I have a Underground Quilts under quilt and a EE top. I also have an older Clark but like the Dream Hammock better. Using a 12' Kelty Noah Tarp but would like to upgrade this to something lighter. All in I weigh 4-8 ounces more than my Megatarp set up.

Curious, could the megatarp be used with a hammock?
I thought that would be awesome to use it with the annex and a stove and still keep my hammock.


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[nirvanafan]

I'll list my setup too. I plan on taking it to CO this fall.

Hammock - Warbonnet Blackbird double layer 1.1 (I think) with whoopie slings and homemade webbing tree straps - 34.87 oz
Tarp - Homemade BlackCat (google for directions on how to make) with a few stakes (can be left out for less weight) - 22.13oz
Top quilt - Hammock Gear Burrow 20° with 1 oz extra down- 19.25 oz
Underquilt - Hammock Gear Incubator 20° with 1 oz extra down - 21.63 oz

Total (roughly) - 6 lb 2oz

That total would be below 6lb if I dropped the stakes. Not too bad for a setup that lets me sleep great and will get me down to 10° or so. If I am going somewhere where I know that the ground is soft, I don't bring the stakes. I plan on shortening up the tree straps a bit. They're each about 8' long now. I've never needed that much, and I usually end up wrapping them around the trees a few times. This would drop the weight a few oz too.

If you were really trying to shed weight, you could get a 20° setup under 5 lb.

 

[NJDiverDan]

stuckbuck,

I have not tried putting the mega tarp over the hammock, but I don't think it would work. You would need some significant mods to remove the poles from the mega tarp pitch to accommodate the hammock and I also do not think it is long enough for full weather protection. As to adding a stove, you could put a stove jack in any hammock tarp that would heat some, but you would need a pretty large tarp if you wanted it pitched to the ground to better seal in the heat.

 

[twall13]

As to adding a stove, you could put a stove jack in any hammock tarp that would heat some, but you would need a pretty large tarp if you wanted it pitched to the ground to better seal in the heat.

Agreed, hammock tarps aren't really designed to hold in the heat. A stove would help some but wouldn't be nearly as efficient unless you have a tarp big enough to reach the ground. I'm not sure how a Megatarp would work with a hammock but if anyone tries it out post up some pics/videos for us to see.

I've seen a video where someone used an MSR tent with a stove for a hammock. Again, not my video and I have no experience with stoves and a hammock but it's an interesting idea and since it's been brought up, here is proof it's possible, though perhaps not ideal for our uses.
[video=youtube;HIKfgJFU0xI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HIKfgJFU0xI[/video]

 

[stuckbuck]

Interesting twall13.
I've been watching this video too, looks nice! I just emailed the guy to see if he still makes them.

https://youtu.be/YBgWrLUVv8E



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