Google banning firearms

William Hanson (live2hunt)

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A local non profit site called rollanet.org, that is similar to craiglist, just had to pull their firearms section because google made them. Here is the conversation a friend of mine posted to Facebook about the change:

"I just called Rollanet and talked to a gentleman by the name of Gary there. The issue did not start with them. Google Ad sense was the culprit. I spent almost 40 minutes on the phone with Gary. They are looking for alternatives for the buying and selling of firearms and related items. Google gave them 3 days to drop the firearms part. It is in a contractual agreement that Google has with them and the fact that Google provides 68% of their funding which at this time they cannot replace via other sources. Exactly how many dollars is 68% he could not tell me as he did not know. I told him it is pretty bad that a faceless corporation can come in and dictate policy via their check book. He has agreed and says they are all not happy with this decision either but their hands are tied for the moment. As a non profit organization they have to be very careful of their stances in both actuality and appearance. I suggested to him to look for funding which was friendlier to the 2nd Amendment. I also told him we just enacted into Missouri Constitution the 2nd Amendment preservation act and it was supported by all of Missouri. He knew about that too. This is a money thing and Google was flexing their monetary muscle to force this to happen. So, that being said, everyone should now boycott anything to do with Google. I am deleting Google Earth off my laptop when we are done here and any thing else I can find including their search engine. I think that Gary did a very good job and he seemed very genuine in his actions and words. He did ask that we give them time to try to correct this the best way they can. I told him I would put our conversation out for all to read. He also said his phone has been very busy this morning. As well as it should be. They need to know at least how we stand in this. I said we would endeavor to support them but the firearms thing will not go away. They are working on it as we speak. Or so he said."
 
I did not know this either. Sadly not that surprised. What is the preferred option at this point now?
 
It is amazing on how many companies are anti firearm. And yes, if I know, I will not support them---as in Bank of America. The name itself is an oxymoron.
I guess I'll also use this opportunity to encourage everyone here, no matter what you hunt with, to support organizations who are actively fighting the fight. NRA and Gun Owners of America need your support. There currently is a lull now but it's gonna come up again with the next election. Keep vigilant! They will NEVER stop trying to control.

Randy
 
It is amazing on how many companies are anti firearm.

If you lump together all the companies that are anti-firearm and pro-gay, you suddenly don't have much to choose from anymore......and can't do business with anyone out of principles. So where do you draw the line? Much like the "Made in China" versus "Made in the USA" debate, except I think that one is actually easier to find ways around.
 
While it is true that it's difficult to get away from large companies that have ethics that I disagree with, in this instance it is a local company that I can pressure. Many folks around here are in an uproar about it so I am sure something will be done or it will go out of business as we are a fairly small community.
 
These can really become a morale dilemma. I do my best to support businesses and organizations that are in line with my beliefs, ethics, and way of life. However it is becoming harder and harder to draw lines on all issues without making some big sacrafices.

For example, my mortgage is with BOA. I did not know they were anti-gun, but it was also not my choice to finance with them. A few years ago I refinanced my home through one of those companies that specializes in refis, and then after the deal is done they package up your mortgate and shop it around to the bigger banks for the best deal. They ended up selling my mortgate to BOA.

The interesting thing is I have an FFL, and BOA carries the mortgage on my home. Although they may avoid doing business with firearm companies, they are indirectly supporting the firearms industry by carrying the loan on my home.

Another dillema is ebay/paypal. I know they do not support gun sales and restrict sales on items. Basically if it isn't legal in the most restrictve states, like California, they don't allow you to sell it on ebay. However, they do allow the sale of many firearm and hunting accessories. Since I don't have a storefront, selling things like holsters on ebay are a large part of my small business. Although ebay/paypal get a cut of this sale, the profits made on my end are re-invested in supporting the firearm/hunting industry. The products I sell are also being put in the hands of other pro-gun and hunting enthusiasts that otherwise would not have easy access to many of these things. So in a way, ebay/paypal are still supporting and providing for the firearm industry.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that it is not black and white for anyone on either side of this fight.
 
Another note, thinking about Google. I'd bet that their search engine is the gateway to more firearms related searches, and ultimately sales, than any other access point on earth. I'd also bet that the amount of money that gets poured into the firearm industry through internet purchases that start with a google search far outweighs any of their attempts to restrict the support of firearm companies.

I'm making some assumptions here, but unless they start restricting firearms related seaches on Google, they indirectly do more to support the firearm industry than most other pro-gun orgainizations could ever dream of.

So, if you really want to stick it to Google, only use thier search engine when looking for a place to buy a firearm. lol!
 
I don't use Google at all, because every time you do, they make money through advertisement. The more hits they get on their search engine or sites, increases their revenue. I know that one person using or not using Google, won't make a difference, but I know that at least I'm not supporting them.
 
That's not exactly how it works, they only get paid if you click on one of the "Advertisement" links. They get nothing if you just use the general search results. Aside from the increased traffic I guess.
 
That's not exactly how it works, they only get paid if you click on one of the "Advertisement" links. They get nothing if you just use the general search results. Aside from the increased traffic I guess.

I used to own a website, and the number of hits on my site dictated how much I could charge advertisers. Hits on my website was very important.
 
I do not think there is any real way to get around supporting, in one way or another, the anti-firearm/hunting groups. I know in the past BOA was the provider for the National Wild Turkey Federations credit cards. With the way the banking and larger business are set up, you never know who is going to end up with your money.
 
Well that sucks. I recently switched my email to google. I've been tinkering with google earth for a few months to scout virtually.

Anyone know if GoDaddy is anti hunter? I have my website with them. Its time for renewal.
 
Just an update the local website, Rollanet.org, has done their best to rectify the situation because of all the public outcry. They have made a separate section for gun sales that is not supported by Google.
 
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