Four (4) Deadly Reasons Why You Should Not Purchase Or Use A Floorless Shelter

[C.payne]

This thread topic is a perfect example of why some people should just stay home. Leave more room in the outdoors for us “risk takers!”

 

[Vandy321]

Is there a floor in the Circus tent at the CDC?

 

[Moserkr]

Should we not walk in dirt too and kick up dust? Wear a mask on windy days outdoors, alone, just incase some aerosolized mouse piss jumps ups n attacks me. Whats the contact needed for me to get it? Does the mouse pee on me in the shower or do I pee on it? Hows this work...

I always kick away the top layer of dirt when I make my circle for my tipi. If it looks like a rats nest id just find another spot. Never seen that issue n rarely even see a mouse...

 

[eaglebowhunter]

You can help flatten the Hantavirus curve by wearing a mask, staying at home, washing your hands, social distancing, and not hunting in CO or NM from the look of things!

With less than 50 cases a year, I like my odds in a flourless shelter. Besides from the look of this I’d say case counts are trending down...

Facts not fiction

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[Mule3006Elk]

 

[bbrown]

Hantavirus Hemorraghic Fever (HFRS) ... Hantavirus Pulmonary Syndrome (HPS) ... Leptospirosis ... Lymphocytic Chloriomeningitis (LCMV) ... and there are others ...... Rodents, especially field mice urinate frequently. Mouse urine, as well as saliva, and feces dry, turn to dust, and become aerosolized spreading viruses, and bacteria through the air. These aerosolized diseases can be inhaled by humans causing serious illness, and death. A sewn in floor may add weight, bulk, and require cleaning but owning a floorless shelter can bring you in close contact with rodents that carry, and transmit diseases which can not only make you sick but can cause your death, as well as serious illness, and the death of friends, and family members who share your floorless shelter. Think four "4" times before you purchase a floorless shelter.....

Are you just trying to get your post count up to access the classifieds?

 

[Marbles]

Most cases come from buildings, such as campers and hikers staying in disused cabins. Even so, case counts are low.

The benefits of a floorless shelter far outweigh this miniscule risk. I also think more people die of carbon monoxide poisoning in tents (about 30 per year per CDC) than all hantavirus deaths. Clearly having a floor kills. So, why are you advocating people switch from safe shelters to murder implements.
End seriousness.

Floored shelters also lower sperm counts, are you trying to sterilize the few remaining men in America?

Floored shelters also cause autism, spinabifida, and gastroschisis. People should think about their future families before choosing something as dangerous as a floored shelter.

 

[Mule3006Elk]

Is this a random educational cliff note that perked your interest or did you have a personal experience with Hantavirus?

 

[Mike Islander]

Junior Member Hannibal = Russian post farm worker used to generate forum posts.

 

[FLAK]

Say what you will, but I'll stick with my floored tent. I dont want to be laying there at night on early fall hunts here in the SE Appalachians, thinking about a Timber Rattler or Copperhead snuggling up next to me.
Esp. after being bitten by a Copperhead in late Sept of 07.
He's in a jar in my man cave.

 

[Poser]

Taking a cue from the Covid vaccination thread, should we put the yellow stars on the floorless users or the floored users and how will we distinguish between the users above and the non vaccinated? For example, does a fully vaccinated wall tent user get a yellow star or does the non vaccinated Hillberg user?
Also, if someone puts a floor down in their floorless tent that is not actually attached to the tent, are they still at risk from catching mouse turd disease from the exposed corners? Also, if I sleep in a floorless shelter but take a nap on the ground while glassing will I die?

 

[Mike Islander]

Say what you will, but I'll stick with my floored tent. I dont want to be laying there at night on early fall hunts here in the SE Appalachians, thinking about a Timber Rattler or Copperhead snuggling up next to me.
Esp. after being bitten by a Copperhead in late Sept of 07.
He's in a jar in my man cave.

East Coast is a whole different animal. Floored here in the Lowcountry of South Carolina. Floorless with stove out West.

 

[Billinsd]

Don't give the government any ideas. Next thing you know, they will be banning floorless shelters because of the .000001% risk. Or they'll be trying to mandate face masks for use in all floorless shelters.

Or making you wear a mask!!!!

 

[Ucsdryder]

I bet he learned this at a pint night...

 

[mavinwa2]

so much for some cabins rented out.....

 

[Chad E]

I can put a slightly different perspective on this thread. A buddy of mines dad passed away at a young age from hanta virus. Pretty damn sad deal. It seems like we have a death every couple years in my county from it. I'm acutely aware of the dangers. That being said I think your misrepresenting the dangers the virus poses. Everything I've seen on it suggests that these exposures are occuring in concentrated areas of mouse activity like old barns(buddies dad) cabins old outhouses etc. Campers and hikers contract it in these locations not out on the landscape in their tents. Simply pitching a floor less shelter for the night in a random location is not a high risk activity.
I (long before covid) wear a n-95 mask to clean out my chicken coupe, demolish old sheds, clean out mouse infested seed storage sheds and other confined spaces. I supervise staff that is frequently in scenarios like this an it is standard operating procedure to mask up. I also spend many nights a year in a floor less shelter and plenty in a floored shelter as well. When choosing which to take on a trip Ive never even considered hantavirus.
I think its probably a good idea to know the dangers that hantavirus poses but I certainly wouldn't make it the reason you steer clear of a floorless shelter. Not to mention most of my floored tents are mesh on the inside and vent really well. I don't think they are providing much of a barrier to an aresolized virus. Also if you think a tent floor is 100% going to keep mice out your crazy ive seen them chew right through.

 

[dalth22]

This was definitely a troll.

 

[Cdroot89]

When I was in college I worked in a lab that studied mice/the hantavirus. I am not worried at all about sleeping on the ground with a floorless tent. Can you find a case study where someone got infected by sleeping in a floorless tent? Cleaning or using a cabin is much higher risk. Mice get concentrated in the cabins and there is a lot more risk then picking a random place to put your tent down. You stated that the virus is degraded by sunlight. Most of the time my tent is placed where there is sun...inside of a cabin there is not sun.

 

[John pettimore]

Are you just trying to get your post count up to access the classifieds?

Probably looking for a good deal on a Cimarron!

 

[switchback7]

for sure a troll.