First Western Rifle

His wording implied that he was talking about September that’s why I asked for clarification. First season in Colorado can see some pretty heavy rut activity especially when it was earlier than now. I’ve heard bugles into 3rd season but they don’t respond to calling well or come into calls much that late. It mostly seems like talking amongst themselves than hard locating rut talk.
Yes, the Colorado Wildlife For Ranching program has some tremendous September rifle rut hunts. October can still be active in Colorado with the rut. Last October in New Mexico I killed a bull with my rifle while he was bugling at 70 yds .
 
Well I'm sure this isn't the first "help a noob pick his caliber" thread, but here goes.

I've started looking at setting up a "do it all" western rifle. Elk, Muleys, antelope etc.
I can't picture myself ever shooting further than 500 yards.
I'd like to stay under $2000 on the base rifle.

Edit after some feedback:
6.5 PRC, 7 REM MAG, & 300 WSM are the main 3 I'm looking at so far.
Honestly lived in western colorado my whole life been hunting my whole life and for an all around rifle you really dont need to go over 1000 the budget guns these days shoot so dang well anyway thing in that 6.5 creed 270 win 30-06 308 7-08 is frankly all that you need any more than thats just unnecessary even on the big bulls with todays modern bullets like the monolithics and bonded options and really a 3-9 to 4-12 scope in that 500$ and under range is just about perfect for the close in shots and those 500 yarders and if you put this combo on a savage 110 remington 700 howa 1500 tikka t3x browning xbolt ruger m77 you really cannot go wrong.
 
Those cartridges will absolutely get the job done. However, inside 500 there are many options that kill just as effectively for all the species you mentioned with a fraction of the recoil. This translates to a shorter learning curve for learning how to shoot longer range, and increased hit probability. Below are several options you may want to consider.

If you're not a reloader:

.243
6 Creed
.25-06
6.5 Creed
7mm-08
.270
6.5 PRC
.280AI
.308

If you are a reloader:

.223 w/heavy bullets
25 creed
25-284
...

To make the most informed decision, especially as it relates to smaller cartridges and their killing potential, please take the time to review these threads.
I recently did a little research and put some recoil numbers together for the 7 PRC on a different thread, and here is a link if you care to review.
I'm curious why not many people recommend 6 mm ARC? they seem plenty good for 4-500 with better barrel life than the 6 creeds? I'm newer to the world of the smaller Calibers, and genuinely curious.
 
I'm curious why not many people recommend 6 mm ARC? they seem plenty good for 4-500 with better barrel life than the 6 creeds? I'm newer to the world of the smaller Calibers, and genuinely curious.
6 arc is awesome and I would love to own one. However it uses an odd case head size and can be challenging to re barrel a rifle for and is very limited in factory rifle offerings.
 
6 arc is awesome and I would love to own one. However it uses an odd case head size and can be challenging to re barrel a rifle for and is very limited in factory rifle offerings.
Interesting. That’s too bad. Hopefully that will change soon. It seems the factory ammo is everywhere now that the military adopted it.
 
I'm curious why not many people recommend 6 mm ARC? they seem plenty good for 4-500 with better barrel life than the 6 creeds? I'm newer to the world of the smaller Calibers, and genuinely curious.
@Unknown Munitions is currently building a 6 ARC for me on a Tikka action. My outfitting business sees a lot of new hunters, many of whom don't own a rifle, and I think a 6 ARC is the perfect cartridge to start them out on --- in my opinion, it's more than enough for hunting out to 600+ yards (new shooters will not be permitted to shoot game at those distances) but with very tolerable recoil. Add a suppressor and it should be a really good shooting experience.
 
@Unknown Munitions is currently building a 6 ARC for me on a Tikka action. My outfitting business sees a lot of new hunters, many of whom don't own a rifle, and I think a 6 ARC is the perfect cartridge to start them out on --- in my opinion, it's more than enough for hunting out to 600+ yards (new shooters will not be permitted to shoot game at those distances) but with very tolerable recoil. Add a suppressor and it should be a really good shooting experience.
You’re a good dude for doing that. Most outfitters I’ve talked to or seen still say 6mm is too small for big game.

6arc is awesome to shoot for newbies.
 
Interesting. What bullets, at what ranges -- and why?
I shoot at least 20 big game animals a year so mostly whitetails but also Antelope and Elk. 6MM Creed, mostly 108 Berger Elite Hunter but also ELD-M. I found the meat damage horrendous for no more benefit in vital organs. It's also very annoying to be spitting out shrapnel for months after a hunt. I also always felt I needed to take a broadside rib shot which is perfectly fine with small calibers on Elk, but IF my only chance is at a big bull is hard quartering I'll be thankful for a 180gr. TTSX from a .300 Win Mag. I have not yet needed to shoot a big game animal further than 500 yds, but shoot to 1000 on my range every other week or so.

I do like the 6mm Creed and still shoot it in PRS matches (until my Lapua brass runs out then I'll likely go GT). If I were to hunt prairie/breaks deer or antelope I'll use the match rifle for sure. For now I'm back to my .300 Win (180 TTSX @ 3122) or a very fancy 7mm Rem Mag (175 Accubond LR's @ 3041) for elk and up until Jim Borden sends me the barreled action for a 7-6.5 PRCW.

If I were to buy 1 rifle under $2k today, I'd try to find a Christensen 6.5 PRC for sale and work out a deal to meet the guy and shoot it first just to see if it was a dog. I still prefer the 7mm Remington Magnum because I'm outperforming everything I see in the PRC real world, but finding one with a 1-8 twist barrel is not common.
 
Former boss went from 270 wsm to 6.5 creed, I know they re not magnums but Dad went from 06 to 243, brother went from 270 to 6.5 creed and I went from an 06 to a 223.
My comment was about him going back to big calibers from small calibers.
 
Great info -- thank you.

Have you tried TTSX or Accubond LR in smaller calibers?
I thought the 95gr. .243 TTSx would save the day, but I could not get them to shoot. I still would not feel good about elk at hard angles because I've had Kudu (slightly smaller than an elk) stop TTSX bullets in ordinary shots.
 
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