First Lite developing competitor for Sitka Ambient?

[ChrisAU]

Really really hope this comes to fruition! Stolen from IG.

 

[SloppyJ]

No clue but why not just buy the ambient? I love mine.

 

[ChrisAU]

No clue but why not just buy the ambient? I love mine.

I have one and an arrowhead which I like more than the ambient. But more options is always better!

 

[Ho5tile1]

The one I saw was only 20 bucks cheaper than the Grumman 329.99 vs 349.99 for 20 bucks I’m going stone glacier. Don’t know what the price on camo fire is


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[Redthies]

First Lite already has a similar piece (for many years). The Catalyst line is soft shell fleece with DWR. I have the jacket. It’s awesome.

 

[Valumpessa]

I'm sure it would be lighter weight than their Catalyst line if comparable to the Ambient.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

Had the catalyst. Nice piece. But the Ambient is far, far more breathable and wider range temps capable. Thinner face fabric and more open insulation weave.

 

[PredatoronthePrairie]

Love my ambient.

Don't think I took ot off on a 4day hunt this spring. Fit a wide range of conditions.

 

[Redthies]

I’m more of a merino guy, but I’m always looking for more stuff to blow money on. I even tried some $4,500 binoculars yesterday. Thank dog I didn’t like them

 

[Redthies]

Thinner face fabric and more open insulation weave.

That fits the look of what the poodle is wearing in that screen shot…

 

[mtwarden]

At this juncture, I would think that every outdoor clothing manufacturer would (should) have something w/ Polartec Alpha, Primaloft Evolve or something very similar in their active insulation lineup.

 

[Drenalin]

The only similarity between the Ambient and the Catalyst is that you wear them both on the upper half of your body.

 

[Redthies]

The only similarity between the Ambient and the Catalyst is that you wear them both on the upper half of your body.

And both are apparently soft shell synthetic insulation. So there’s that.

 

[Drenalin]

And both are apparently soft shell synthetic insulation. So there’s that.

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Edited to delete my response. Good luck this season.

 

[knehrke]

I'm simply astounded at the nuances that distinguish different pieces. We are lucky to be able to donate so much money to camo manufacturers lol...a phenotype that I possess, too! How great would it have been to have figured out that camo was going to be a boutique sector back before Realtree came out?

 

[ChrisAU]

If you haven’t used an ultralight piece with primaloft evolve or polartech alpha in the field then it may be hard to comprehend the differences looking at pics. They are not soft shells with fleece backing, they are light puffy jackets without an inner liner, exposed insulation. The Catalyst would be compared to the Traverse or maybe Jet Stream, but no hunting company has anything that compares to the Sitka Arrowhead MDWi or Ambient.

 

[Redthies]

If you haven’t used an ultralight piece with primaloft evolve or polartech alpha in the field then it may be hard to comprehend the differences looking at pics. They are not soft shells with fleece backing, they are light puffy jackets without an inner liner, exposed insulation. The Catalyst would be compared to the Traverse or maybe Jet Stream, but no hunting company has anything that compares to the Sitka Arrowhead MDWi or Ambient.

So more like a lightweight Uncompaghre with no inner liner? Interesting. I have a Sitka dealer in town, so next time I go in, I’ll see if they have the ambient.

 

[MT_Wyatt]

So more like a lightweight Uncompaghre with no inner liner? Interesting. I have a Sitka dealer in town, so next time I go in, I’ll see if they have the ambient.

Not quite. The unc more of a loose fill syn insulation. These “direct” pieces are unfaced with a more fur/hair like fleecy insulation that’s direct on your skin/layer. They breathe better and are more open to air/moisture transfer.

https://www.polartec.com/fabrics/insulation/alpha-direct

 

[Redthies]

Interesting stuff. I went to my Sitka shop today and they didn’t have Ambient.

If I get my annual “product assessment” phone call from FL soon, I’ll certainly ask if this is in the works. Jordan should know I would think, but may not be able to post about it.