Finding Arizona draw data

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I have seen on other forums where folks have posted draw data AZ that identifies the number of people that applied for each hunt, the number of points they have and how many drew. It is a lot more than I can find on my AZ portal. Any idea where it is coming from? Here is an example. The address at the top gets me no where.
 

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Go to the hunting page then find the harvest reporting page and it’ll be there.
I can see this data, but not anything as detailed as what I posted.
 

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hunting
hunt draw and licenses
big game draw information
bonus points point guard etc
bonus points explained
reports are there, you want Elk Pronghorn bonus point report
Thanks with a roadmap I was able to find it. Thanks for taking the time to help!
 

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Make sure to correlate to last years proclamation, they change numbers every year.


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Make sure to correlate to last years proclamation, they change numbers every year.


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Yes, I saw that elsewhere but having some difficulty verifying prior year hunt codes.
 

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Yes, I saw that elsewhere but having some difficulty verifying prior year hunt codes.
you’ll have to use the bonus points sheet with the 2024 Draw Odds as a reference (this is the general sheet with odds that aren’t realistic but it has units and dates on it with hunt codes). I’m actually working on a program where you can enter your amount of bonus points and it’ll give your % odds in the 1st to 2nd pass and sort the hunts with your odds from highest to lowest
 
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The AZ draw odds are a good start but there is more than one wildcard in the mix. The odds will show you R/NR draw pools by hunt code and bonus point pool. However, just because someone applied for hunt X with X points does not mean they will apply for that same hunt this year. In addition, many applicants will be accruing bonus points each year without applying for a hunt and will jump in the application pool for hunt X. Thus, it's impossible to have 100% assurance you will draw in the bonus pass. Ask me how I know.
 

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The AZ draw odds are a good start but there is more than one wildcard in the mix. The odds will show you R/NR draw pools by hunt code and bonus point pool. However, just because someone applied for hunt X with X points does not mean they will apply for that same hunt this year. In addition, many applicants will be accruing bonus points each year without applying for a hunt and will jump in the application pool for hunt X. Thus, it's impossible to have 100% assurance you will draw in the bonus pass. Ask me how I know.
You're right, you can only try and track trends based on past data and choose what gives you the best odds with the bonus pass + the 1st & 2nd pass.

The only way to be a 100% is if you check the bonus points by species and you'd have to be in the top points group. Even then that group would have to be small so you wouldn't go over 20% BP allotment for a hunt code for R & NR, that's assuming everyone applies for the same code. There's only a handful of people who are in that category and that will probably never be most of us lol.
 

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You're right, you can only try and track trends based on past data and choose what gives you the best odds with the bonus pass + the 1st & 2nd pass.

The only way to be a 100% is if you check the bonus points by species and you'd have to be in the top points group. Even then that group would have to be small so you wouldn't go over 20% BP allotment for a hunt code for R & NR, that's assuming everyone applies for the same code. There's only a handful of people who are in that category and that will probably never be most of us lol.
The only way to be 100% sure is to just assume you won’t draw. That will probably be most of us.
 
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