Felt recoil 7-08 vs. 6.5 CM

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Of these two, in an apples to apples comparison, which one has the lightest felt recoil? I'm not looking to start any kind of a debate between these two calibers in regards to ballistics, etc., just comparing felt recoil. So say the rifles are the exact same UL wt. models, and they're both shooting factory 140gr ammo. Which one is easier on the shoulder?
 
From my experience of "felt recoil" between those two the CM is just a little less.


(That said, I don't and won't own a CM)
 
I can switch barrel a 6# rifle between 6.5 cm and 7-08. Same receiver, stock, scope, and barrel contour. The 7-08 is a little shorter. There is virtually no difference. The 7-08 is the only one that has ever given me scope eye though. Dumbass moment and I’ll leave it at that.
 
Both are going to burn nearly identical amounts of powder. If both guns are launching 140s (common weight for both calibers), the recoil will be nearly identical. Ballistically, the 6.5 will have the edge (higher BC at same bullet weight, nearly identical velocity). 7mm is getting above the ideal bullet diameter for that case capacity. Trying to match 6.5 BCs with a 7mm bullet is going to kill case capacity and velocity, and lose out ballistically. Go 6.5 CM, Alpha brass, RL-16, and any good 140-147 grain bullet. It's pretty automatic.
 
It's so close a 12 year old girl couldn't tell you which was which.
This was the reason for my post...actually it's an 11 year old "little" girl, in my case. I'm planning on the rifle wearing a break as well, just to take a little bit more of the sting off.
 
You could just throttle them back and then when she hunts give her the real deal.20170416_131535.jpgMy daughter at 9 or 10 was busting softball sized rocks at long range on a 243 with 105's which is right in the hunt recoil wise. She would shoot about 40-50 a setup.

Be super careful with the brake. Kids ears don't fit plugs or muffs all that well.....and they can get tore up by the noise.
 
This was the reason for my post...actually it's an 11 year old "little" girl, in my case. I'm planning on the rifle wearing a break as well, just to take a little bit more of the sting off.

I think she’ll be fine with it if the stock fits her OK.
 
Choice makes a 123gr scenar in 6.5 creed

Scenarshooter over on 24hour has smoked a lot of game with that combo.
 
So not apples to apples but I like the Barnes LRX bullets. I developed a load for my wife's fieldcraft with 44gr. of RL16 and a 127gr LRX which is .5gr shy of max. For 270win it would be a 129gr LRX and max with RL16 is 53.5 gr so I dropped it to 53 for purposes of figuring recoil since the CM load isn't quite max. I estimated a 6.5lb rifle for both because I can't quite remember what the fieldcraft weighs scoped. Again not exactly apples to apples but if it were me it would be an LRX bullet using RL16 in a Barrett fieldcraft rifle.
 

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I should add that my rather small framed 10 year old step son shoots the 22" barrel fieldcraft in 6.5 without much fuss. Still waiting for my tax stamp to come back though to make it even more enjoyable with even less recoil and less muzzle blast.
 
Not the same rifle but nearly the same weight. I have both calibers and shoot 140s from the 7-08 and 142s from the CM. Recoil nearly identical.
 
I have shot both together, both were kimbers. 7mm-08 139gr, 6.5 CM 120. Both were really light, couldn’t tell the difference. Both were a pleasure to shoot.
 
I have shot both together, both were kimbers. 7mm-08 139gr, 6.5 CM 120. Both were really light, couldn’t tell the difference. Both were a pleasure to shoot.

That’s what I’m looking for. On a side note, how did they shoot.


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If they were both shooting 140 grain bullets with the same powder charge they would have exactly the same recoil in identical rifles. This is not a opinion. Physics dictates it. I think if this is for a child get the 6.5 and shoot lighter bullets with higher bc, better ballistics and less recoil. Just keep shots at a reasonable distance.
 
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