Federal New Cartridge

[wyosam]

It seems like a ton of people are completely missing the main claimed advantage of this cartridge which is:

doing in an 18" barrel, what 7PRC needs 24" to do.

Probably because especially on this forum, there is question whether what a 24” 7PRC can do is worth doing at all. More of a 16-18” 223/6cm crowd.


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[cuerro viejo]

It seems like a ton of people are completely missing the main claimed advantage of this cartridge which is:

doing in an 18" barrel, what 7PRC needs 24" to do.

How many people actually max out the 24” 7PRC range?

Have you done a load work up for a 7 BC?

 

[bnewt3]

How many people actually max out the 24” 7PRC range?

Have you done a load work up for a 7 BC?

The answer to your question is almost none, the answer in a hunting situation should be 0.

Can I assume that you are trying to make the point that because almost nobody maxes a 7PRC, something that that is capable beyond that distance(or at reduced distance because the 7PRC is shorter than 24") is irrelevant? Because if that is your point, then rifle cartridge development in the US should have stopped in 1906.

But aside from that, again, the main goal of this cartridge, as I see it, is to have a 7mm that performs just like a 7PRC with a significantly shorter barrel.

I dont have 7BC so no I havent done any loads.

 

[cuerro viejo]

The answer to your question is almost none, the answer in a hunting situation should be 0.

Can I assume that you are trying to make the point that because almost nobody maxes a 7PRC, something that that is capable beyond that distance is irrelevant? Because if that is your point, then rifle cartridge development in the US should have stopped in 1906.

But aside from that, again, the main goal of this cartridge, as I see it, is to have a 7mm that performs just like a 7PRC with a significantly shorter barrel.

I dont have 7BC so no I havent done any loads.

More of the point that the extra velocity is irrelevant if 1) you don’t ever utilize it 2) you can’t utilize it if you can’t tune a load to the rifle.

Until reloading is a mainstream practice for the 7BC it will remain a cool concept for those not actually going to take advantage of the increase in speed, that is of course unless you where the lucky dice roller that received a chamber/barrel combo that loves factory ammo, and that ammo never differs from lot to lot….

But to each their own I’m sure people are getting use to the neck tension requirements and finding a few box’s of casings to load

 

[bnewt3]

More of the point that the extra velocity is irrelevant if 1) you don’t ever utilize it

almost nobody stretches 7RM to its limit, almost nobody stretches 7-08 to its limits......so how far back do we need to go before everything is irrelevant?

 

[Sundodger]

The answer to your question is almost none, the answer in a hunting situation should be 0.

Can I assume that you are trying to make the point that because almost nobody maxes a 7PRC, something that that is capable beyond that distance(or at reduced distance because the 7PRC is shorter than 24") is irrelevant? Because if that is your point, then rifle cartridge development in the US should have stopped in 1906.

But aside from that, again, the main goal of this cartridge, as I see it, is to have a 7mm that performs just like a 7PRC with a significantly shorter barrel.

I dont have 7BC so no I havent done any loads.

More of the point that the extra velocity is irrelevant if 1) you don’t ever utilize it 2) you can’t utilize it if you can’t tune a load to the rifle.

Until reloading is a mainstream practice for the 7BC it will remain a cool concept for those not actually going to take advantage of the increase in speed, that is of course unless you where the lucky dice roller that received a chamber/barrel combo that loves factory ammo, and that ammo never differs from lot to lot….

But to each their own I’m sure people are getting use to the neck tension requirements and finding a few box’s of casings to load

almost nobody stretches 7RM to its limit, almost nobody stretches 7-08 to its limits......so how far back do we need to go before everything is irrelevant?

Unless you are somewhere that requires non-lead ammo. That's the big advantage of the high pressure rounds with short barrels for suppressors.

I have no data to support this, but if internal ballistics are anything like an internal combustion engine, you will get better combustion efficiencies with higher pressure all other things being equal. I am sure this would a minor improvement that might not be able to detectible to a regular shooter, but it's something I about.