I think I would get the incinerator. I’ve got the previous model fanatic and I don’t really care for it bow hunting. I always seem to catch the string of my bow on the sleeve if I’m not careful. It is an awesome jacket, not warm enough for a stand alone in my opinion when hunting the north, sitting for 8-12 hours a day in November. I also find it pretty noisy compared to regular fleece faced fabric. The deal on the warmth is you really need to wear the jacket with bibs and something to trap the warmth around the neck area to really utilize all the warmth it provides. The collar on the jacket is really large, so is the waist area and lets a lot of heat escape and wind get in, basically cancelling out a lot of the jackets warmth. Needs to be a little longer for people that don’t wear bibs. I’m not sure if it’s like this where you are from but the first part of November tends to always have some wet weather days (cold drizzly). I think Sitka really made some much needed improvements on the jacket for this latest model so it may be fantastic. I think the perfect set up would be to have the incinerator and the stratus jackets. You can layer a puffy under the stratus and makes it pretty darn comfy. Also, if you really don’t pack in very far just use the cheaper camo stuff. You can buy the heavier coats that are just as warm/warmer for a LOT less. My dad still uses camo coveralls and he’s killed a lot of big bucks with the bow. No need to spend a lot on camo like I did unless you want to

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