Equipment versus practice posts and Rifle practice/shooting

[Speaks]

any good resources for positional training or technique?

I keep waiting for the STH video course but I think it may have fallen off their radar.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

any good resources for positional training or technique?

The Carl Ross drill targets are great.

If you mean, “how to get into shooting positions?”, then chapter 6 of this is probably helpful for the basics.

https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/wtbn/MCRP%203-01A.pdf

 

[lak2004]

I keep waiting for the STH video course but I think it may have fallen off their radar.

Me too!

 

[goalie]

The Carl Ross drill targets are great.

If you mean, “how to get into shooting positions?”, then chapter 6 of this is probably helpful for the basics.

https://www.trngcmd.marines.mil/Portals/207/Docs/wtbn/MCRP%203-01A.pdf

Yeah, the KD range didn't exactly translate to combat effectiveness by itself, but the fundamentals got hammered home, and that mattered a lot when we moved past positional shooting.

As for me, my new year will involve no new "gear" other than ammo. I got my 5.56 bolt gun set up with an SWFA 3-9x HD and my competition AR hasn't changed in a few years. My ULUL is dialed in as well. I have an LS Wild pack pillow and UL rear bag coming. I've printed a bunch of the positional targets from post 1, page 1.

It's time to focus on skill, not stuff.

 

[ddowning]

Yeah, the KD range didn't exactly translate to combat effectiveness by itself, but the fundamentals got hammered home, and that mattered a lot when we moved past positional shooting.

As for me, my new year will involve no new "gear" other than ammo. I got my 5.56 bolt gun set up with an SWFA 3-9x HD and my competition AR hasn't changed in a few years. My ULUL is dialed in as well. I have an LS Wild pack pillow and UL rear bag coming. I've printed a bunch of the positional targets from post 1, page 1.

It's time to focus on skill, not stuff.

You have it figured out. The best investment in gear is more ammo and barrels to burn out, especially once you get to a certain point with gear.

 

[Anschutz]

You have it figured out. The best investment in gear is more ammo and barrels to burn out, especially once you get to a certain point with gear.

I'd argue it's a good place to start as well. Shoot a stock rifle a bunch and you'll learn what you do and don't like about it and experience will lead you to needed gear.

 

[Brap01]

I keep waiting for the STH video course but I think it may have fallen off their radar.

I would really like to see that.

I shot a 12 on the Carl Ross targets. Lots of room to improve. I plan to shoot it a lot with a bolt action 22 this year. Then I'll transition to my hunting rifle later in the spring or summer.

 

[Gstew1930]

40x break & builds. Practice is really starting to pay off

 

[Nine Banger]

View attachment 98258740x break & builds. Practice is really starting to pay off

View attachment 98258740x break & builds. Practice is really starting to pay off

Nice Shooting.

Looking at this cone has me thinking...has anybody else been looking at THLR Shooter Error Analysis Target and Shooter Error Manual?

I came across them prepping for the Zp5s to arrive.

 

[Formidilosus]

View attachment 98258740x break & builds. Practice is really starting to pay off

With or without cactus?

 

[Gstew1930]

With or without cactus?

With!!! i roll in it now before i shoot just to get in the right mindset

 

[rbutcher1234]

View attachment 98258740x break & builds. Practice is really starting to pay off

Par time for each break and build?

 

[Formidilosus]

With!!! i roll in it now before i shoot just to get in the right mindset

That’s right.

 

[Jermh]

Kicking off the new year shooting this drill for the first time. Bought a Tikka in 223 a couple months ago, put a 3-9 SWFA on it and was able to kill a few deer with it this season. Starting to take training more seriously and this drill was pretty humbling...I learned a lot about what I need to work on. Here's to 17+ by the end of the year

 

[Speaks]

Kicking off the new year shooting this drill for the first time. Bought a Tikka in 223 a couple months ago, put a 3-9 SWFA on it and was able to kill a few deer with it this season. Starting to take training more seriously and this drill was pretty humbling...I learned a lot about what I need to work on. Here's to 17+ by the end of the year

Looks like you shot a 13, that is not shabby at all.

 

[Jermh]

Looks like you shot a 13, that is not shabby at all.

I feel like it's a decent starting point. I knew offhand would be tough but I'm surprised that I did so poorly with sitting supported. Feels good to have some structure and direction on what needs improving though.

 

[goalie]

Well, I started the new year finishing post scope-swap zeroing, and getting the RS95 dialed in with the Mountain Tech medium rings. The SWFA rings were fine, but the scope came off when I epoxied an Area 419 20 MOA rail on, so I went with the Mountain Techs when I re-mounted the scope.


I really like the LS Wild pack pillow and UL rear bag. Super light, yet enough "structure" to be steady while in use.

The Bergara B14r shoots CCI SV really well, and the 3-18x Athlon Ares tracked like a dream after re-installation during the annual post-season scope swap. I'm really liking everything about that scope but the weight, so I think it's staying on the 22lr now.

The SWFA 3-9x HD has a shim kit, and I can now only go 4 clicks down past my 100 yard zero. The 20 MOA rail has only the bottom line showing on the elevation turret at zero now, which I like a lot more than the 3 showing with the rifle's OEM zero moa rail.

Back to positional practice this weekend after I get some hand loads ready to test.

 

[nnmarcher]

I tried the Carl Ross drill today and I actually hit 0/20. I am obviously pretty green with a rifle, but I would like to improve. Going back to the original post, I see @Formidilosus wrote:

A start-

Grouping prone, from a front and rear sandbag until 10 round groups are 1.5’ish MOA. Once on consistent precision from a rest is achieved, then prone over a backpack until 10 round groups are 1.5 MOA and no larger than 2 MOA on demand. Same for a bipod if using one.

Any advice for the most basic of basics? I am constantly fidgeting when I am in the scope and nothing feels consistent. I have a Tikka .223 with a SWFA 6X and quite a bit of cheap ammo. Thanks in advance!

 

[wpeach1912]

I tried the Carl Ross drill today and I actually hit 0/20. I am obviously pretty green with a rifle, but I would like to improve. Going back to the original post, I see @Formidilosus wrote:


Any advice for the most basic of basics? I am constantly fidgeting when I am in the scope and nothing feels consistent. I have a Tikka .223 with a SWFA 6X and quite a bit of cheap ammo. Thanks in advance!

Dry fire a lot. Do build and breaks with dry firing in your basement. Consider moving your scope forward or back if you’re having trouble getting a good image

 

[Marbles]

I tried the Carl Ross drill today and I actually hit 0/20. I am obviously pretty green with a rifle, but I would like to improve. Going back to the original post, I see @Formidilosus wrote:


Any advice for the most basic of basics? I am constantly fidgeting when I am in the scope and nothing feels consistent. I have a Tikka .223 with a SWFA 6X and quite a bit of cheap ammo. Thanks in advance!

Work on shooting prone. Solid rest such as a sandbag and use a rear bag, good position. Once you can print a sub 2 MOA 10 round group like that, swap the sand bag out to your pack and the rear bag for whatever you will use in the field and shoot prone some more until 10 round groups are sub 2 MOA. Only then start doing things like break and builds.

Adding too much early on will hinder learning, not help.

Crawl-->walk-->run.