Eld-x not performing as expected

[Mecanic thony]

Hi guys anyone else ad trouble with a eldx bullet at close range? Last year my 300 prc shot her first deer at 460 yard just hammer it down, this year at closer range, 173 yard bullet hit 3 ribs and still the exit is no more than the bullet size, ad to call a dog to find the deer who was dead nearby but in tall grass so we never find him, without reloading the choice for the 300prc is limited for hunting purposes
Thanks

 

[Fire_9]

I had a buddy tell me he had very disappointing results on elk with the 300 prc/eldx combo this year. One bull they found and one they did not. Two rounds penciled through on the one they found and assumed it was the same story on the one they didn't. I'd be picking up some 215 berger hybrid ammo if I were you...

 

[Pharmseller]

So the bullet killed the deer, it fell nearby, you were unable to find it, so it’s the bullet’s fault.

And this is your first post.

Right.




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[CorbLand]

143 and 162 ELDx have killed any elk and deer we have hit with them anywhere from 30-410 yards.

I do get the feeling this is another troll job.

 

[S-3 ranch]

I’m not a fan of them @ sub 200 yard
We have had terrible core separation in both 6.5cm & .270win , very flimsy with bad penetration
The deer died but I don’t like that kinda extreme explosive jackets
Switched to Norma oryx 150gr bonded and it’s been a great killer on deer and elk , aoudad

It’s the same old argument explosive at close range vs long range exceptable

 

[JohnJohnson]

That seems to generally fall into how the ELD-X was designed unless I'm misinterpreting what you're saying. It shed a lot of its weight inside the animal at a range inside 400 yards?

 

[Mecanic thony]

So the bullet killed the deer, it fell nearby, you were unable to find it, so it’s the bullet’s fault.

And this is your first post.

Right.




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Yeah i just created my account what’s the point of it being my first or my 1000th post? At 3240 pound pf energy in a vital shot am i dumd to expect it to not run away?

 

[Steve300xcw]

Why do you need a 300prc for deer?

 

[JohnJohnson]

At 3240 pound pf energy in a vital shot am i dumd to expect it to not run away?

You wouldn't expect that if you understood how bullets kill things.

Edit: I think that could be read as too mean. If you spend some time around this forum you will learn a bit about what makes bullets perform (velocity, not energy) and how bullets then kill things. It is not because of some magic shockwave that hits the animal and knocks it out.

 

[Pharmseller]

Yeah i just created my account what’s the point of it being my first or my 1000th post? At 3240 pound pf energy in a vital shot am i dumd to expect it to not run away?

Yes




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[Billy Goat]

Yeah i just created my account what’s the point of it being my first or my 1000th post? At 3240 pound pf energy in a vital shot am i dumd to expect it to not run away?

I don't mean this to be a dick at all.

This is exactly why foot # of energy doesn't matter, it's bullet construction.



A lung shot doesn't immediately incapacitate. So yes, even if hit with 6000# of energy, if it's just putting a hole through the lungs, it doesn't mean something will drop.

Yes, with poor blood trails it can be very hard to find animals in some conditions, even if they didn't go far.

Might be you want to change where you are aiming to facilitate dropping them, will usually sacrifice meat.

 

[Mecanic thony]

Why do you need a 300prc for deer?

Built it for moose and use it on other hunt as well yes i know its overkill

You wouldn't expect that if you understood how bullets kill things.

Edit: I think that could be read as too mean. If you spend some time around this forum you will learn a bit about what makes bullets perform (velocity, not energy) and how bullets then kill things. It is not because of some magic shockwave that hits the animal and knocks it out.

 

[S-3 ranch]

Why do you need a 300prc for deer?

Who cares! I have a 375 ruger I shoot everything from deer to buffalo
I just don’t see why you would care

 

[JohnJohnson]

While there are other Rokslide megathreads you could find this information in, I'll try to give a little in the way of a brief explanation. For starters if you have 5 minutes of time, check out between 2:40-7:30 in the below video. It's a brief and solid explanation for some of this stuff. I am not the person in the video, nor am I familiar with all of his content. I just like his explanation and visuals between those timestamps in the video.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

“Dead nearby but in long grass” and complaining about the bullet is just silliness. I’m sorry but get better at gridding for dead animals. The bullet did its job as they usually do. Quick and rapid death.

 

[Mecanic thony]

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I’ve just create my account to get help or education on the subject. Dont know why im pissing you off but have a nice day chief

“Dead nearby but in long grass” and complaining about the bullet is just silliness. I’m sorry but get better at gridding for dead animals. The bullet did its job as they usually do. Quick and rapid death.

it’s more the fact that it hits 3 ribs and still the exit hole is the size of the bullet

 

[Samson7x]

Bullets do weird things when they hit a bone, let alone 3. What were you expecting the exit to look like?

Seems like the bullet did the job.

 

[Mecanic thony]

Bullets do weird things when they hit a bone, let alone 3. What were you expecting the exit to look like?

Seems like the bullet did the job.

Sure he died but appears that im wrong for assuming he should have drop right there like they use to in the past it’s the first out of maybe 10 deer for me that didn’t drop right there guess im just not use to it

 

[AndrewMT34]

I agree with others, the bullet did it's job.

 

[mlevimadden]

I’ve just create my account to get help or education on the subject. Dont know why im pissing you off but have a nice day chief

it’s more the fact that it hits 3 ribs and still the exit hole is the size of the bullet

Welcome to rokslide.

I don't see how it's possible that the bullet hit 3 ribs and had a bullet-sized exit. Did you gut the animal and find any jacket pieces or the bullet shank in the gutpile? Sometimes on fragmenting bullets, the exit you see is just a piece of the jacket that exited rather than the shank/core of the bullet.

As others have said, a lung shot definitely doesn't guarantee a dead-right-there animal. You'll have to shoot for the front shoulder if you want that result, at the cost of some meat. Especially the offside shoulder if you're shooting a 300 PRC.