EE vs UGQ quilts

[jofes]

looking at the 0 EE revelation for $350 at 29.3 ounces which based on what I have read is water resisted treated down, the option is UGQ 0 bandit for $220 at 26 ounces..... is the water treatment worth the price/weight?

 

[Cwfa]

I have an EE 20 and love it. I use it on all my backpack hunts. Haven’t carried a bag in 6 years.

 

[Paulyester]

Had a 2018 EE quilt before they started stuffing them 30% more because they were considerably understuffed. I bought right before they started putting more down in them. I had contacted them after I received my quilt and told them it only lofted to 1.75" and there was no way it would be warm to 20 degrees... it wasn't and apparently they agreed because they have started putting more down in. When I contacted them again to see if they could do anything I was told, too bad. Really ticked me off, they basically admitted their product wasn't rated correctly, I pointed it out to them and they wouldn't do anything about it.

That being said, I'm in the market for a new quilt, I've narrowed it down to the UGQ or Cedar Ridge Outdoors.

My big question is whether the treated down is worth it or not? I live in Oregon where it's always damp. My last quilt wasn't treated and none of my down bags are treated and they seem to be alright but after 3-4 days, they can start to feel a little damp

 

[BRTreedogs]

Had a 2018 EE quilt before they started stuffing them 30% more because they were considerably understuffed. I bought right before they started putting more down in them. I had contacted them after I received my quilt and told them it only lofted to 1.75" and there was no way it would be warm to 20 degrees... it wasn't and apparently they agreed because they have started putting more down in. When I contacted them again to see if they could do anything I was told, too bad. Really ticked me off, they basically admitted their product wasn't rated correctly, I pointed it out to them and they wouldn't do anything about it.

That being said, I'm in the market for a new quilt, I've narrowed it down to the UGQ or Cedar Ridge Outdoors.

My big question is whether the treated down is worth it or not? I live in Oregon where it's always damp. My last quilt wasn't treated and none of my down bags are treated and they seem to be alright but after 3-4 days, they can start to feel a little damp

Basically the exact same scenario for me.
First EE accused me of using it wrong.
When I replied that I was not and I was on an insulated pad they just straight up ignored me.
Great Cs on a $400 product.
For me your bag/quilt is part of survival gear so yes its worth it.
If your near Central Oregon I have a new Katabatic Flex 22 here if ya wanna check it out.

 

[jofes]

If your not impressed with EE but you still think the waterproofing is worth the money, who would you go with?

 

[BRTreedogs]

If your not impressed with EE but you still think the waterproofing is worth the money, who would you go with?

I went with katabatic gear this go round.
I think the pertex fabric is superior.
And the ratings true.
If you compare fill weights you have to go 1 or 2 warmer rated in almost every competitor to compare.

 

[sneaky]

If your not impressed with EE but you still think the waterproofing is worth the money, who would you go with?

Nunatak

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[sneaky]

Had a 2018 EE quilt before they started stuffing them 30% more because they were considerably understuffed. I bought right before they started putting more down in them. I had contacted them after I received my quilt and told them it only lofted to 1.75" and there was no way it would be warm to 20 degrees... it wasn't and apparently they agreed because they have started putting more down in. When I contacted them again to see if they could do anything I was told, too bad. Really ticked me off, they basically admitted their product wasn't rated correctly, I pointed it out to them and they wouldn't do anything about it.

That being said, I'm in the market for a new quilt, I've narrowed it down to the UGQ or Cedar Ridge Outdoors.

My big question is whether the treated down is worth it or not? I live in Oregon where it's always damp. My last quilt wasn't treated and none of my down bags are treated and they seem to be alright but after 3-4 days, they can start to feel a little damp

I've had an EE 20 degree quilt for about 3 years now and never have had any of the issues you have brought up, repeatedly, in every EE thread. Mine just needs a good laundering at this point, otherwise it's been fine.

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[BRTreedogs]

I've had an EE 20 degree quilt for about 3 years now and never have had any of the issues you have brought up, repeatedly, in every EE thread. Mine just needs a good laundering at this point, otherwise it's been fine.

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Happy for ya.
But if you do have a problem rest assured they'll tell you to stiff it.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I've had an EE 20 degree quilt for about 3 years now and never have had any of the issues you have brought up, repeatedly, in every EE thread. Mine just needs a good laundering at this point, otherwise it's been fine.

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Im not upset the rating was off, people sleep different.
I froze in a 20 quilt on a 4.4 pad in a bivy with merino on in 35.
It was the fact they are willing to do nothing, even with me offering to pay to have the fill added.

 

[sneaky]

Happy for ya.
But if you do have a problem rest assured they'll tell you to stiff it.

If I had a problem I would get it fixed elsewhere. I wouldn't make it my life's mission to complain incessantly about it. Those Katabatics are great quilts, just wish they offered a few different color options.

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[BRTreedogs]

If I had a problem I would get it fixed elsewhere. I wouldn't make it my life's mission to complain incessantly about it. Those Katabatics are great quilts, just wish they offered a few different color options.

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Just trying to help other members make the correct choice based on my experience.
Sorry that's a problem for ya.

 

[nickstone]

I had an EE quilt and had the same problem as the guys above. I'll never buy a product from them.

If somebody asks for an opinion on their products I will happily share mine, and it was 100% negative. I see lots of people post about having positive experiences with there products. I'm just not one of them

I ended up going to a WM Terralite, its under 2 lbs and I love it.

 

[jofes]

The Cedar Ridge outdoors 0 LeConte is ony 22.5 ounces and $282 AND its treated down..... It seams hard to beat, do they have any bad reviews?

 

[BRTreedogs]

The Cedar Ridge outdoors 0 LeConte is ony 22.5 ounces and $282 AND its treated down..... It seams hard to beat, do they have any bad reviews?

Well for one I think you focused on price to much.
Your sleep gear needs to keep you warm in the intended temps you plan to use it.
And the weight is whatever it is to keep you warm.

I never heard of it but how could it be cheaper, lighter and just as warm?
There's no magical materials that are 9oz lighter and just as warm.

 

[Paulyester]

Im not upset the rating was off, people sleep different.
I froze in a 20 quilt on a 4.4 pad in a bivy with merino on in 35.
It was the fact they are willing to do nothing, even with me offering to pay to have the fill added.

This was my gripe. The customer service left a lot to be desired.

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[Wisco_LOT]

Have you heard of/looked into Hammock Gear quilts? I recently purchased one of the "economy burrows", and while it seems very nice (materials/construction), I have not used it on a hunt/overnight yet...but figured I'd throw out another possible option...they have the budget version (economy), as well as their premium line.

https://www.hammockgear.com/insulation/

 

[TexasCub]

Never ran a EE because of all the negative feedback regarding fill. Ran a Katabatic 15 last year which I sold, got a UGQ 10 XL this year and love the room the XL Bandit affords. Seems very well made and the fill holding the quilt up to sunlight is well dispersed.

 

[mvrk28]

Just got my EE Enigma today after what felt like forever. I went with a 20* long wide which probably would have been fine with a regular wide but I'm not complaining. It feels much nicer than my alps 20* bag I was using, very lofty even with the 850 fill. Quality seems great, can't wait to put it through it's paces in the backcountry.