Drop the 1,500 ft.lbs myth

[JohnJohnson]

My comment was tongue in cheek, I thought that was clear but maybe not. Does this help…

If YoU dOnT hAvE eNeGrY, yOu DoNt HaVe DeAd DeEr……….

For me it's less about the kinetic energy and more about the metaphysical energy. If the vibe of the situation isn't right, I notice the bullets just bounce off.

 

[sierracharlie338]

For me it's less about the kinetic energy and more about the metaphysical energy. If the vibe of the situation isn't right, I notice the bullets just bounce off.

Like pebbles on an elephants ass!

 

[Pdzoller]

Here we go again… let’s see some more pictures of dead animals.

 

[Shō[t]gun]

I have owned a 30-30 for 46 years. I would not shoot an elk with it.

Would you shoot an elk with a .308?

 

[MuleyFever]

It’s in the video. The shoulder wound looks more forward because of the way it’s hanging but that internal wound area shows that it didn’t just drop because it was a spine shot. CNS hit and it’s was done.

I see, I stopped after the field photo.

 

[KenLee]

Y'all wild. By the time I was 16, I'd killed 25 whitetails with 22lr cci stingers. 32 gr.
Just looked it up. 119 pounds energy at 50 yards. No different than shooting a coon between the eyes.
Run whatcha brung and have fun.

 

[Elkangle]

I think the reason this continues to pop up is one group of guys is relying on essentially slicing up an animal to create massive blood loss, similar to a bow & arrow which definitely doesn't have 1500 foot pounds...while another group of guys is relying on a big temporary wound channel that disrupts the nervous system to create this shock and aww performance

I'm not gona say which is better but I think it's important to know where each side is coming from

 

[bmart2622]

Velocity dictates bullet expansion, bullet expanison creates wound channels, large wound channels thru vitals kill animals. Work within the velocity range that your specific bullet reliably expands in and amimals will die regardless of the ft/lbs of energy the bullet has. Bullet manufacturers know it which is why bullets have a minimum VELOCITY for bullet expansion not an energy measurement, just like all the pictures of bullets on ammo boxes at various stages of expansion have a velocity measurement next to the picture, not an energy measurement.

 

[Pdzoller]

Y'all wild. By the time I was 16, I'd killed 25 whitetails with 22lr cci stingers. 32 gr.
Just looked it up. 119 pounds energy at 50 yards. No different than shooting a coon between the eyes.
Run whatcha brung and have fun.

My grandparents used to use a .22lr for blacktail in the garden. They drop like a sack of potatoes.

 

[MuleyFever]

My grandparents used to use a .22lr for blacktail in the garden. They drop like a sack of potatoes.

When shot behind the shoulder?

 

[Pdzoller]

When shot behind the shoulder?

Pretty sure it was in the foot

 

[atmat]

Pretty sure it was in the foot

But you gotta keep them moving so it doesn’t clot.

 

[SDHNTR]

I’ve killed elk with a .300 savage in a lever action, I wouldn’t hesitate to use a 30-30 under the right circumstances.

 

[Choupique]

My personal lower limit is 4,000 ft lbs at the muzzle.

 

[sierracharlie338]

My personal lower limit is 4,000 ft lbs at the muzzle.

Good call can never be too safe

 

[mt terry d]

My personal lower limit is 4,000 ft lbs at the muzzle.

That greater margin for error is key.

 

[atmat]

But you gotta keep them moving so it doesn’t clot.

@sndmn11 why the angry reaction lol?

 

[sndmn11]

@sndmn11 why the angry reaction lol?

That guy isn't a positive for hunting.

 

[atmat]

That guy isn't a positive for hunting.

Haha hence why I’m mocking him

 

[sndmn11]

Haha hence why I’m mocking him

He can still make me angry!