This is my thoughts too. My water, food and clothing is based upon the possibility of killing an animal late and getting stuck on the mountain until the early morning hours. Or overnight, but that's never happened.This is a very good call out.
Be realistic on what you absolutely need, what will keep you alive if injured or stranded, and what would be nice to have but not necessary.
In the past I always packed a day bag as if I may have to stay the night in the woods. It could happen but it never has and I don’t pack for it anymore.
How much does that weigh alone?Pack is a Kifaru Duplex Lite with Stryker XL.
That is extremely light. I'm trying to get my pack a little lighter but I'm not going to give up my first aid kit, tarp, rain gear, compass, signal mirror and fire starting items.My typical day pack is sub 20lbs including rifle and optics:
My frame weighs 4lbs 5oz
30L silnylon drybag 2 oz (in certain areas this becomes a 20L heavy duty dry bag at 14oz)
.270 with scope and sling and full magazine is 8lbs 2oz, plus another 6 oz in additional rounds that I've never had to use
Binos 1lbs8oz
Knife, havalon, extra blades 6 oz total
Sometimes 1lbs snacks (usually none though)
Lifestraw plus 1qt of water 2lbs 8oz total
Paracord 3oz
InReach Messenger 4oz
Phone 8oz
Game bags 8oz
Carbon fiber trekking poles 8oz
Headlamp with extra battery 4oz
DeWalt battery bank 4oz
Sometimes I also have my Kowa tsn-553 and a tricer head that I set up on my trekking poles with either a stick or a buddy's pole for the third leg.
For me, I'm almost always wearing my rain gear up here in AK. I just rock my Yukon rain pants over my underwear with a long sleeve fishing style T shirt under my Yukon jacket.That is extremely light. I'm trying to get my pack a little lighter but I'm not going to give up my first aid kit, tarp, rain gear, compass, signal mirror and fire starting items.
Bro! you're blowing our cover. Now they're gonna ask if @Matt Cashell is AI.Even though I'm just a fictional character (AI generated?), I'll "weigh in" anyways
Here's my early season day hunt setup, based on temps down to freezing or a bit below and also a very low chance of precip (hence my choice of rain gear, if that probability goes up, I add full on rain gear including mitts).
I don't feel I'm skimping too much. I carry a 50° quilt, a bivy and 50" of a Thermarest pad (r value 2) just in case. I also add ~ 1000 additional calories of what I'd normally eat in a day. I got to test this setup on my Dall hunt where we were forced to the spend the night on the mountain (fortunately not a long night above the Arctic Circle! ) and while I wasn't cozy, I actually slept where the guide and packer said they got no sleep
The quilt has a "poncho" hood, so I can also "wear" it as an additional layer glassing; the pad is used every day for sitting. Much (much) nicer than a tiny Z-seat pad.
Two Nalgenes full is my normal carry, but could be more or even occasionally less in water rich environs.
This is with a framed pack as I definitely don't want to walk back out to truck without a load on my back.
It also includes an active mid-layer, puffy jacket, puffy pants, an insulated hat and fleece mitts. Again those choices are based on temps to ~ near/slight below freezing.
It also includes essentials such as 2 headlamps, inReach Mini, first aid and a decent fire kit and even a small charger- not a place I'm willing to skimp much.
This list also includes a spotter and tripod. Some of my elk hunting I nix the spotter, but the tripod goes regardless.
The weight also includes food and water. Obviously water weight can vary by environment.
I list my rifle weight and bino/harness weight, but don't count them as pack weight.
Pack weight 22 lbs.
Yesterday I was hunting elk (day hunt) and in 8-12" of snow and temps down into the teens. I was hunting elk and didn't bring my spotter (- 2 lbs). My heavier puffy jacket, puffy pants and puffy mitts added + 1 pound.
So 21 lbs.
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