Cyanide use for predator control

[cbat]

What?
Seriously?

You just have to shake your head sometimes. People who have never lived on or operated farms or ranches have no clue. But they have a keyboard to make stupid comments.

 

[Fetty Wapiti]

Domestic sheep and livestock on public lands are a bigger issue than coyotes!
If one of my dogs found an M44... i would be scared to be a sheep.

 

[KurtR]

There are signs just be able to read

 

[Fetty Wapiti]

There are signs just be able to read

Dogs cant read signs... most bird dogs range pretty far... you would never see the signage before it was too late. Hell I had a dog point an M44 bait in Nebraska a long time ago.

This risky and relatively expensive tool is being used to help non profitable businesses? Sounds like socialism to me.

If your margins are that low find another job, just like most other folks are forced to do.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Do two or ten or twenty wrongs make a right?

In the case of poisons and snares set with taxpayer funds, it is literally socializing the risk (and cost) for a questionable increase in the profits of a private company. If they can’t turn a profit without indiscriminate taxpayer funded lethal controls, not to mention all the other subsidies, maybe they shouldn’t be in business?

What if beef was 10k for a finished steer? That would be neat wouldn’t it? I’ll take gov subsidies for our meat/ food supply any day of the week over all the other fraud and crap they waste my family’s money on…

 

[KurtR]

Dogs cant read signs... most bird dogs range pretty far... you would never see the signage before it was too late. Hell I had a dog point an M44 bait in Nebraska a long time ago.

This risky and relatively expensive tool is being used to help non profitable businesses? Sounds like socialism to me.

If your margins are that low find another job, just like most other folks are forced to do.

I mean socialism likes to get thrown around stupidly so i guess public land would fall under that scope also......

 

[Fetty Wapiti]

I mean socialism likes to get thrown around stupidly so i guess public land would fall under that scope also...

Yes in a looser sense it does. You aint wrong. But we can still agree that domestic livestock on public lands is a greater threat than a few coyotes... any outdoorsman protecting the sheep/wool industry is dillusional.

 

[KurtR]

Yes in a looser sense it does. You aint wrong. But we can still agree that domestic livestock on public lands is a greater threat than a few coyotes... any outdoorsman protecting the sheep/wool industry is dillusional.

I dont know coyotes kill alot of deer and birds. How many instances are there of dogs being killed? I killed my biggest mule deer just shy of 200 with a bunch of cows watching me and killed a bunch of goats on public land wiith cows around. Being multi use is good for keeping public land public

 

[Fetty Wapiti]

I dont know coyotes kill alot of deer and birds. How many instances are there of dogs being killed? I killed my biggest mule deer just shy of 200 with a bunch of cows watching me and killed a bunch of goats on public land wiith cows around. Being multi use is good for keeping public land public

They do, but they also kill species that raid nests...
Balance is the key, some grazing on public land is awesome, but we are encountering the classic tragedy of the commons throughout much of the west when it comes to grazing on public lands.
They are also doing little to keep public lands public. They would be helping if grazing fees were adjusted to match.
We are basically subsidizing cheap beef to keep China happy. All while destroying habitat that is critical for our wildlife.