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[drdrop]

I'm not saying that's false, but they have been monitoring my area for the last 5 years. Multiple units throughout the region with high focus on areas with their first possitive animals.

I have noticed they could give a shit about the areas with a very high prevalence. I guess at that point, why bother. It's there to stay.

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Good point, the high focus areas get more attention/funding whereas lower priority areas are monitored on a less frequent rotation.

 

[RockChukkar]

None yet. They just found it here in the state a few years ago. None in my county yet, but that will change I’m sure.

 

[pods8 (Rugged Stitching)]

Because any little trace of “ meat” left on or in any little nock or cranny, ( like bolster to blade, grinder tube or plate, etc) will still contain the prions. You may not see it, but it’s still there.

My thought on the matter is it would seem like there is a difference between eating meat with high concentrations of prions vs stray prions on gear in terms of risk exposure. It seems improbably incidental prion contact is going to be the gateway to the species barrier. A stray prion on my knife or cutting board isn't going to multiply in dead flesh of subsequent animals. There is no way I can avoid stay prions is my stance so I'm not going to loose sleep over them. Cause even if you toss everything in this instance you'd be kidding yourself to think you don't cross paths with some stray prions over time be it gear, the dirt in nature (where animals are shedding prions, etc.). That is just where I tend to view the surface contamination aspect. I feel like one could develop a version of germophobia if they let their mind go wild trying to avoid contact with a single prion ever.

 

[SloppyJ]

Arkansas received some Rocky Mountain Elk in the 80's to help seed a herd in the Ozarks. Fast forward 40 years and we now have 1/4 of the state covered in CWD regulations. If you look at the data that is published from the fish and game, the epicenter of the CWD crisis is centered around the same area that the elk were introduced to. What a real two-fer they got with that deal.

I hunt in one of the zones that has CWD requirements. There aren't many that have ever been positive here and it's still voluntary to get them tested. I have yet to witness any deer personally that I have thought might have had the disease. From 2016 to now, only 1,500 deer have tested positive but the number surely has to be higher.

Personally I've never taken one to get tested. If I knew it was positive I wouldn't eat it though. My luck is that I'll be patient zero.

But after reading this thread I'm going to start soaking my deer in bleach so I can be sure they're free and clear!

 

[grfox92]

Are you going to ignore the study that has been referenced multiple times in this thread where it conclusively says 40% bleach deactivates prions on stainless steel?


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I just wanted to update the thread as I did call the WY State Vet lab.

"We absolutely recognize that at the proper concentration bleach does deactivate prions on hard surfaces. We recognize that and so does Game and Fish."

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[Redrice]

And that most butchers would already be dead from CJD.

Great points raised that I had been thinking about but not to this detail..........I wonder?

 

[WyoKid]

I would have never imagined that a CWD discussion would result in such a wide and deep division of opinions, arguments, anecdotal evidence and claims. It definitely has fallen into the hot button topics category along with politics, the source of COVID, vaccinations and other divisive issues.

My only input is that as science and information has evolved, so have I.

I used to go gloveless until leaning more about blood born illnesses. I didn't used to wear a seatbelt until it became a legal requirement, and it has saved my life and my son's life. I remember the days when smoking was considered fashionable and people smoked in restaurants and in airplanes (yes, I am that old). Now the hazards of smoking and the chemical additives in tobacco are well documented. I used to drink untreated water until leaning of water born illnesses and contaminants.

So, as we learn more with advances in science and information, I have also evolved. I now take CWD precautions and have my ungulates tested. For me, it is just a matter of good risk management based on developing information.

 

[Archer86]

Cwd is something to consider for sure I won't allow my kids to eat meat from a aniamal that hasn't been tested. If we for some reason don't get a animal tested i keep those seperate and marked for only me to eat.

Having said that how often does it happen that someone takes there meat to the butcher and gets it back and processed and then gets ther results back of a positive test. Probably more often then what most want to believe. But out of sight out mind

Seams like around me alot of people don't bother testing unless they are checked by the game warden or its required. I am sure more people have consumed meat from a cwd infected animal then most want to belive also.

 

[mt terry d]

It definitely has fallen into the hot button topics category along with politics, the source of COVID, vaccinations and other divisive issues.

My only input is that as science and information has evolved, so have I.

Today's "science" and "information" regarding topics of covid, vaccinations, CWD, etc IS politics today.

That's not evolution or progress no matter what the "experts" claim.

The older I get the more I come to the realization that my parents and grandparents had most things right.

 

[MattB]

So it’s basically the same thing as mad cow disease, which people have died of, confirmed. Only the species is different. CJD ( which people have died of) is the known human form of it. But they do not, will not, “test “ for it in an autopsy .

Similar, not same.

 

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I would have never imagined that a CWD discussion would result in such a wide and deep division of opinions, arguments, anecdotal evidence and claims. It definitely has fallen into the hot button topics category along with politics, the source of COVID, vaccinations and other divisive issues.

My only input is that as science and information has evolved, so have I.

I used to go gloveless until leaning more about blood born illnesses. I didn't used to wear a seatbelt until it became a legal requirement, and it has saved my life and my son's life. I remember the days when smoking was considered fashionable and people smoked in restaurants and in airplanes (yes, I am that old). Now the hazards of smoking and the chemical additives in tobacco are well documented. I used to drink untreated water until leaning of water born illnesses and contaminants.

So, as we learn more with advances in science and information, I have also evolved. I now take CWD precautions and have my ungulates tested. For me, it is just a matter of good risk management based on developing information.

This is what intelligent and reasonable human beings do. I wish it were universal, but sadly, it's not.