Well, update on the carbon Riven tube, it makes me want the cambium one, because there is no pleasing me I guess. The carbon tube kicks ass, it sounds really good and is really loud, it’s for sure the best I have used… has really good sound like the big OG Phelps, but it’s loud like the elknut chuckler.
I should be completely happy with it, because it’s a great tube, but I’m a sucker for woodwork. It’s like a recurve, you can get a good performing ilf with a metal riser and carbon limbs, or you can spend more without getting any extra performance but have a beautiful work of art that you appreciate every time you look at it (yes, I’m trying to justify a stupidly expensive bugle tube, but I’m ok with that

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Riven just seems to make good stuff, I have pretty much switched to their diaphragms too, they sound good with less effort.