CPW Decisions Today

[Ucsdryder]

The 50/50 split is for all animals? Antelope, deer, elk?

EXAMPLE…
Unit 10
10 tags available
-5 tags to top 5 preference point holders
-5 tags to random…hunters name in the hat based off number of preference points, meaning Joe blow has 10 preference points so he has name the hat 10 times?

Is that correct?

 

[cnelk]

I think I read somewhere that the Hybrid Draw is going away with the new process.

Anyone confirm?

 

[NickyD]

I think I read somewhere that the Hybrid Draw is going away with the new process.

Anyone confirm?

Yes, bottom bullet point. Pulled from document below

Item.22_DrawChanges.pdf

cpw.widen.net

Deer, Elk, Bear, Pronghorn, and *Turkey
a. Primary Draw Methods (*Applies to both the spring and fall limited turkey
draws)
i. Draw Type - Split Draw
● A split draw methodology will be used in the Primary Draw for all
deer, elk, bear, pronghorn, and turkey licenses. The quota for
each hunt code will be divided 50/50, with half of the quota
going to a preference point draw, and half going to a bonus draw
(*see Appendix A for descriptions of draw types). If the quota
cannot be evenly split, the extra license will go to the
preference point draw.
● The previous hybrid draw is removed and replaced with the
above split draw methodology

 

[Ucsdryder]

The 50/50 passing is a game changer.

I’ll be very curious to see how it plays out.

 

[Amos Moses]

Now they need to end the ability to turn the tag in for a point refund.

 

[GunsAreFun]

Snagged this from another platform

Some Colorado CPW Commission decisions today. Starting in 2028 the big game tag allocations will now apply to the 1st choice and 2nd choice of the primary draw. However, they left the fake/soft cap in place for the 3rd and 4th choices. Split Draw Type 50/50 also passed. They also passed a preference point fee after 1st choice --$15 for residents / $30 for nonresidents.

Can anyone explain what this really means/changes like you’re taking to an eight year old?

 

[cnelk]

Now they need to end the ability to turn the tag in for a point refund.

Bingo

 

[ElDiablito]

Can anyone explain what this really means/changes like you’re taking to an eight year old?

You may want to read the working groups recommendations linked in post #23. It’s pretty explanatory.

 

[Jethro]

Now they need to end the ability to turn the tag in for a point refund.

Unlikely. One of the proposed changes is if you don’t pay for your drawn tag by the deadline you lose the tag but get your points restored. Currently you lose the tag and the points.

 

[wildwilderness]

50/50 split is great especially for the younger generations. The hybrid draw addressed the issue but was a very minor correction. Now it actually makes sense to apply for units that previously would have been impossible to draw for newbies.

 

[NickyD]

50/50 split is great especially for the younger generations. The hybrid draw addressed the issue but was a very minor correction. Now it actually makes sense to apply for units that previously would have been impossible to draw for newbies.

Yep they basically expanded the hybrid draw 10x. I now have a chance at getting a top tag, where before I had almost no chance.

This will sting for those with 20+ points though.

 

[Sandbrew]

@NickyD - The 20+ person may actually benefit from this hybrid split draw. Take a unit that took 28 points a hunter with 20 now has a chance to draw vs waiting another 8-16 years to catch up with point creep. The split draw means higher point holders have 2 shots at a tag. The preference point part of draw functions like the previous system where the tags are assigned highest point to lowest until the tags are gone for 1/2 the quota. Then the radom draw part of the allocation kicks in where an applicant gets 1 plus the number of points they have random chances at a tag.

 

[cnelk]

Bottom Line:

This approach ensures both prioritization and some level of flexibility or fairness for others

 

[Hnthrdr]

The same number of people will go through the system using up their points. It will draw some people to the most popular tags as they will now have a chance which will actually open up more opportunities for people that just want to hunt and apply for the lesser units.

I realize this, but it seems that instead of having 2-3 unreachable elk/ deer units, those numbers will triple pretty quickly

 

[Hnthrdr]

Just think, by 2028, AI will have the application process figured out for us.

Just saving up for my quantum computer so I can guarantee leftover tags…

 

[MallardSX2]

50/50 split is great especially for the younger generations. The hybrid draw addressed the issue but was a very minor correction. Now it actually makes sense to apply for units that previously would have been impossible to draw for newbies.

It didn't before? Why did they guys apply for it?

Yes, of course, I'm kidding.

But know this, there are a bunch of dip$hits on this list that actually though they had a chance....lol

 

[cnelk]

^^^ Thats probably some residual from years ago before the CPW [DOW] had a Preference Point Hunt Code. You had to apply for a high PP unit to get one.

Either that, or like you said, dipsh!ts

 

[Hnthrdr]

One thing I’m not thrilled with is the money grab for PP… I would be far more supportive if this money wasn’t just to fund essentially re-wilding efforts that are actively undermining hunting… polis is a lame duck. Current ag a polis lackey from NY state may be next in line for the governorship and he will likely be just as bad or worse than Jared… I’m praying we just could even have a sportsman democrat who isn’t a complete idiot to vote for but it seems the more progressive the more likely to win…

 

[Jethro]

I realize this, but it seems that instead of having 2-3 unreachable elk/ deer units, those numbers will triple pretty quickly

Yes and no. More units will become unreachable on points for more and more people. Which is happening right now. Right now though once those units become unreachable for the masses, they remain like that forever. With the change, there will also be some hope of drawing. I believe this move was a response to the complaints we here all the time about never being able to draw such and such.

2nd and 3rd choices likely to become a major player in getting tags.

 

[The_Jim]

That 50/50 split is going to be interesting for sure. Depending on how many guys take the chance in the random pool you could actually see odds get better in some units, but I’m a glass full kind of guy…

I have 4 kids so selfishly I’m glad the youth leftover stayed the same.