could use a hand with tikka barrel removal

[PredatorX]

I used a 5# and did not suffer any damage. Hit it with that and see what happens. Maybe tape over your trigger and bolt stop as I sent mine flying with a good whack. That’s how hard I hit it on a less than ideal vise connection. Got a better connection and one good whack with the 5# and she loosened up.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

 

[Macintosh]

It was the bench flexing slightly, just 1/16” or even less. I added another 2x6 directly under the side of the vise that wants to “lift”, and anchored the plywood top down to that. It broke free after that. Im certain that just the tiny amount of flex was cushioning the impact, and it was not breaking free due to that. Once I eliminated that flex it transferred the wrench force much more directly.

So for the next guy that finds this thread: eliminate ANY flex in the system—even a tiny amount—and it’ll break free a lot easier.

 

[surfr716]

What hammer are you using on the wheeler wrench? Is the wrench tight so there is no rattle or play on the action? Is the bench moving at all? I realize these things seem elementary but when trying to separate the barrel from the action, vibration is your friend. My method involves a post mounted vice bolted to concrete floor, barrel vice, and an action wrench with a 3lb sledge. With everything tight tight, one smack with the sledge loosens it every single time. If youre using a carpenters hammer or similar try a sledge, if anything has any give (including the bench flexing or shifting) it can and will make it more difficult. DM me with your phone number if you want and I can see if im of any help.

this is what i've had to do with my howa mini actions. Apparently big dick hank works at their factory and is generous with the rocksett. I've heard of people having to do similar with tikka rifles, but have been fortunate enough not to run into one that gave me trouble. A 6 foot cheater bar with my 190 lb ass hanging from it like a sloth couldnt break the barrels loose, but a breaker bar and a few solid whacks with a 3lb sledge while it was in a vice mounted to an I beam in the concrete broke it loose, no heat required.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Yall need metal work tables. Leave the 2x's for bon fires.

 

[Macintosh]

Yall need metal work tables. Leave the 2x's for bon fires.

Well maybe. But we dont all do this stuff every day. And if you dont know, you dont know. Did you make your metal work table? I’d love to see some pics and explanation of the table itself.

 

[Steve300xcw]

No I did not make my shop table. Craigslist deal for way less than buying the steel woulda been. Do want to redo the thing one of these years when I get some time.

3/4" up to 1-1/4"+ tables pop up for sale often enough. And if your patient a real heavy table will surface.

"if you dont know, you dont know" Very true!

 

[Macintosh]

I think a lot of guys do this every other year or something like that, and it may not make sense to have a super heavy steel table for only this use. Someone above mentioned a steel post set in concrete, I’m curious what people think the best option would be for an easy, DIY setup to attach a barrel vice to, that would be as close as possible to an inflexible, immovable object, without being too big of a burden to put together or store? Pics welcomed.

 

[carlc]

I fought one last week. I was using a 3lb deadblow to an Wheeler action wrench. Full overhead swings wouldn't budge it. I moved to a 5lb deadblow, and it popped free the first good whack. Get a bigger hammer!

 

[swavescatter]

I think a lot of guys do this every other year or something like that, and it may not make sense to have a super heavy steel table for only this use. Someone above mentioned a steel post set in concrete, I’m curious what people think the best option would be for an easy, DIY setup to attach a barrel vice to, that would be as close as possible to an inflexible, immovable object, without being too big of a burden to put together or store? Pics welcomed.

The most compact, space-saving design would probably be a custom vice plate that fits into your truck hitch. A post set in concrete with a plate you can use for benchgrinder, drill press, vice, etc. would be awesome but will always be there. Lots of designs around the web for this idea.

 

[swavescatter]

There's this type of thing, but I would beef it up with welds or just make it with thicker steel tubing. Would need to run a hitch clamp too so that there's no play in the hitch/receiver.

Heavy-Duty Hitch Mount Vise Plate, Hitch Vise Holder with Adjustable Height | eBay

Find many great new & used options and get the best deals for Heavy-Duty Hitch Mount Vise Plate, Hitch Vise Holder with Adjustable Height at the best online prices at eBay! Free shipping for many products!

www.ebay.com

Also this without added height/flex:

PROGRADE Hitch Mount Vise Plate (59105) | Zoro

Order Pro-Grade Tools Hitch Mount Vise Plate, 59105 at Zoro.com. Great prices & free shipping on orders over $50 when you sign in or sign up for an account.

www.zoro.com

 

[sndmn11]

Mine is mounted on 2" sign post square and slides in a hitch. I just grab the wrench handle and stand up, the truck isn't going anywhere and I've not had an issue with any.

 

[Macintosh]

Mine is mounted on 2" sign post square and slides in a hitch. I just grab the wrench handle and stand up, the truck isn't going anywhere and I've not had an issue with any.

Got a photo you could post?

 

[Stache Attack]

I make my bench with 4x4 treated leg posts 2x4 frame and 2 4x8 sheets of 1” mdf. Mdf doesn’t flex like osb or other sheeting. Anchored the vice into the far right and front 4x4 so the left hand force is moving into the weight of the whole table. Plus mdf is easy to clean

 

[HuntHarder]

It was the bench flexing slightly, just 1/16” or even less. I added another 2x6 directly under the side of the vise that wants to “lift”, and anchored the plywood top down to that. It broke free after that. Im certain that just the tiny amount of flex was cushioning the impact, and it was not breaking free due to that. Once I eliminated that flex it transferred the wrench force much more directly.

So for the next guy that finds this thread: eliminate ANY flex in the system—even a tiny amount—and it’ll break free a lot easier.

Interesting, I just did one this am with very little fight. This one was a T3x superlite. My vise is mounted to my reloading bench, which is a Husky brand bench. Stable, but defenitly moves. Viper vice tighter than you think is possible, cheater bar from my floor jack with constant down pressure and 3 whacks with a 24oz hammer near the end of the external action wrench right in front of the start of the cheater bar. So far every T3x has spun off pretty damn easy. T3's were another story, a couple of those were bears. Glad you got it to spin off.

 

[Macintosh]

Yeah, all the ones Ive done previously were MUCH easier, even using an inferior setup. The threads looked fine on this once off, so I guess it was just mega tight? For sure having a difficult one exposed the flaws in my setup.

 

[sndmn11]

Got a photo you could post?

 

[waspocrew]

It was the bench flexing slightly, just 1/16” or even less. I added another 2x6 directly under the side of the vise that wants to “lift”, and anchored the plywood top down to that. It broke free after that. Im certain that just the tiny amount of flex was cushioning the impact, and it was not breaking free due to that. Once I eliminated that flex it transferred the wrench force much more directly.

So for the next guy that finds this thread: eliminate ANY flex in the system—even a tiny amount—and it’ll break free a lot easier.

Glad to hear you were able to get it sorted out. My bench had some movement, so I loaded it down with 200 lbs of free weights and that did the trick.

A steel table is great if you have the space - I don't.

 

[swavescatter]

Yeah, all the ones Ive done previously were MUCH easier, even using an inferior setup. The threads looked fine on this once off, so I guess it was just mega tight? For sure having a difficult one exposed the flaws in my setup.

Some are just worse than others. I broke a SAC vise getting my first tikka barrel off. They had never seen a broken one before