Considering downsizing to 6 cm from 7 PRC

[mxgsfmdpx]

It is - it’s actually a roughtech I’ve had for a year or so. I used it on an Antelope hunt. I was originally not gonna mess with it and build a whole new gun and keep it as is buttttt saving the $$ and using it is too tempting.

I don’t reload so I have to buy from boutique loaders like copper creek to shoot the heavier 105s I put thru it. Also the barrel is way longer than I want with a suppressor and it’s fluted so chopping it would be weird. I can find 6 cm march on the shelves at a local shop so that’s also enticing.

So I’m thinking shuck the barrel and put in a preferred SS, 18” in their tikka lite hybrid contour and flute it. I have an XLR on order from their Black Friday sale and I won’t see it for a while so I’m not in a huge hurry.

But feel free to critique my plan

Both plans will work. If sticking with the factory 6 creed ammo and not having .243 loaded up you have a good plan in place with the 6 creed route.

18” with a suppressor and in that contour is a really good back country gun overall length and weight for me. An 8-9lb 6 Creedmoor is excellent to shoot compared to an 8-9lb 7 PRC. You will notice a significant difference.

 

[Sadler]

@huntnful & @mxgsfmdpx,
I’ve got a Tikka 223 8 twist with a very long throat! Have you tried an 88 ELD-M in 223, or just 22 Creed? 80 ELD-M stabilized for me, but didn’t group well.

I tried 88s in a 16” 1/8 223 a couple years back and got around 2700 FPS and they stabilized fine but I was a 5000 ft or so. I didn’t shoot a lot of them and went to TMKs.

I have an 18” 1/7 223AI that’ll shoot them at 2850 but I can’t get it to shoot better than 1.5” groups.

 

[HuntHarder]

I tried 88s in a 16” 1/8 223 a couple years back and got around 2700 FPS and they stabilized fine but I was a 5000 ft or so. I didn’t shoot a lot of them and went to TMKs.

I have an 18” 1/7 223AI that’ll shoot them at 2850 but I can’t get it to shoot better than 1.5” groups.

I havnt seen a whole lot of love for the Berger bullets in the .224. Have you tried them yet? Seems like most of the guys are shooting TMK or ELD-m/x.

 

[Sadler]

I havnt seen a whole lot of love for the Berger bullets in the .224. Have you tried them yet? Seems like most of the guys are shooting TMK or ELD-m/x.

No but i may buy some and see how well they shoot. The 156s shoot great out of my PRC so maybe their .224 bullets are the answer.

 

[bowrunner81]

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[Strider]

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[Runwilderness]

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And it’s not even Christmas yet. Can’t wait to see what threads Santa brings this year!

 

[Schmo]

I tried 88s in a 16” 1/8 223 a couple years back and got around 2700 FPS and they stabilized fine but I was a 5000 ft or so. I didn’t shoot a lot of them and went to TMKs.

I have an 18” 1/7 223AI that’ll shoot them at 2850 but I can’t get it to shoot better than 1.5” groups.

Interesting! Because of the custom throat on my 223, I was able to get the 80 ELD-M safely to 3,042 FPS.

 

[CC55]

If anyone from big magnum camp wants to turn some heads, would be cool to see your shooting drill targets with magnum and non-magnum. Show us how well you can shoot the magnum.

One could argue that hunting mule deer you often have plenty of time to set up a perfect prone shot…personally that’s never been the case on a big deer for me. Which is why I need the most forgiving, trouble free, shootable from any position rifle.

100% with you on the rifle shooting drill with a magnum. Would be great to see someone from the bigger is better camp give it a try...only 20 rounds in the name of science. It's so much harder in reality than it looks on paper and would humble most shooters/hunters.

I have noticed the same with mule deer, esp during the rut. Few chances to get a nice spot to lay prone, dry fire from the worlds most stable rest, motionless target, etc. There isn't much time to screw around, even if you are prone! The positional stuff (sticks, vertical pack, unable to get neutral behind rifle) is much easier to spot and keep on target for follow ups if needed.

Have you tried the drill with your 25CM vs the 6CM? Or anything bigger?

 

[willfrye027]

100% with you on the rifle shooting drill with a magnum. Would be great to see someone from the bigger is better camp give it a try...only 20 rounds in the name of science. It's so much harder in reality than it looks on paper and would humble most shooters/hunters.

I have noticed the same with mule deer, esp during the rut. Few chances to get a nice spot to lay prone, dry fire from the worlds most stable rest, motionless target, etc. There isn't much time to screw around, even if you are prone! The positional stuff (sticks, vertical pack, unable to get neutral behind rifle) is much easier to spot and keep on target for follow ups if needed.

Have you tried the drill with your 25CM vs the 6CM? Or anything bigger?

223 vs 25 creedmoor yes. Was a decent amount better with 223 but don’t recall the numbers. The 6cm is a new thing for me but so far I’m enjoying less recoil even though it’s only about 25gr of bullet weight difference, it’s noticable.

 

[CC55]

223 vs 25 creedmoor yes. Was a decent amount better with 223 but don’t recall the numbers. The 6cm is a new thing for me but so far I’m enjoying less recoil even though it’s only about 25gr of bullet weight difference, it’s noticable.

Have noticed the same thing 223 vs 6.5CM when I've shot it. Was waffling on rebarreling to 25CM or 6CM when I toast the 6.5, but looks like 6CM is the way to go.