Well, that escalated quickly! I am a DIY guy in pretty much in all of what i do in life anyway. Country living is for me, farming, cattle and a little dirt track racing. I didn't mean it to sound like a handout. just trying to break the ice. i didn't think everyone wanted to hear the same ol "hello, I'm a newbie" line. Believe me, in Iowa if you don't own timber or spend a crap ton to lease land, its a tough go. We have been going to Edgemont South Dakota for about 15 years muley hunting. We had a great stalk last year and my buddy shot a super nice 5x5 at about 300yds. Also got to try out my new spendy Exo 4800, it fit great with no issues. I have read that your pack is not where you go cheap on. Thanks for all the input. Go fast and turn left