Colorado Draw Report - Elk 2025

[alexnelon]

What is the gloom and doom that will happen to hunting in Colorado if the funds for hunting that go to CPW drop dramatically because the NR Hunters decide not to come.

Every R wants to see less NR in the woods but completely ignores how that revenue could ever be replaced.

When 25% of the hunters pay 90% of the tag revenue, what kind of sportsman actually thinks getting rid of that is a good idea?

There are people willing to pay 14x the resident price to support and subsidize hunting in that state, and residents want to get rid of them. Absolutely asinine.

I crack up every time I hear a resident say “I’d pay double” ok yeah double your $67, and then double that, double it again, and then double it one more time and we’ll be on the same level.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Good thing it's not your problem or my problem to figure in a state with the least expensive out of state tags available with over the counter as well. That's what cracks me up, folks from out of state talking more about price increases than guys in state.

 

[backwoods baw]

None of this will matter in the near future with the way Colorado is headed politically. Hell, we aren’t “becoming” California, we’re about damn near worse already.

Hunting for big game will be banned outright within a few more governor terms, and the only hunting they’ll allow at all will be for geese with a recurve.

Enjoy it while we can boys, just go hunt no matter the price.


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[35WhelenAI]

^^^This^^^

 

[CoMulies]

Every R wants to see less NR in the woods but completely ignores how that revenue could ever be replaced.

When 25% of the hunters pay 90% of the tag revenue, what kind of sportsman actually thinks getting rid of that is a good idea?

There are people willing to pay 14x the resident price to support and subsidize hunting in that state, and residents want to get rid of them. Absolutely asinine.

I crack up every time I hear a resident say “I’d pay double” ok yeah double your $67, and then double that, double it again, and then double it one more time and we’ll be on the same level.

I crack up every time I hear non residents complain about the state that is by far the most generous to NR, to the detriment of its own residents. If you want better odds and cheaper tags, then move. Until then, no one cares

Colorado could also match current tag revenue by doubling resident price, cut NR tags in half to 36k, and bumping NR cost to $1250 to be on par with other surrounding states recent cost increases. You’re not as important as you think you are.

 

[35WhelenAI]

Do tell, how do those states maintain a Parks and Wildlife Department without all that non-resident money flowing into their state? It must be awful...

Colorado is on the lower end of the bottom half of those states with respect to percentage of public land in the state. The getting has been good for non-residents with the three times average non-resident tags versus all the other Western States. Spend some time talking up those states to work on managing their priorities so there's more non-resident opportunity at the expense of residents. See how that flies.

 

[alexnelon]

None of this will matter in the near future with the way Colorado is headed politically. Hell, we aren’t “becoming” California, we’re about damn near worse already.

Hunting for big game will be banned outright within a few more governor terms, and the only hunting they’ll allow at all will be for geese with a recurve.

Enjoy it while we can boys, just go hunt no matter the price.

Exactly right.

Worry about keeping the privilege for everyone to hunt instead of trying to stop other people from hunting.

I keep saying this to residents whining about pressure, if half of all hunters disappeared overnight, hunting would be illegal the next night.

There is no universe where you will ever get to hunt alone. Let go of that fantasy.

Stop trying to kick your friends out of "your" state, and actually fight the people who hate you.

 

[MallardSX2]

I just want to see how much money the CPW brings in from fees this season. Its got to be 20% higher than prior seasons.

 

[Mcribs]

I crack up every time I hear non residents complain about the state that is by far the most generous to NR, to the detriment of its own residents. If you want better odds and cheaper tags, then move. Until then, no one cares

Colorado could also match current tag revenue by doubling resident price, cut NR tags in half to 36k, and bumping NR cost to $1250 to be on par with other surrounding states recent cost increases. You’re not as important as you think you are.

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Exactly this. 0 & 1 pt Landowner tags get sold for 2500 every year, mainly to out of staters. Elk tags, even average ones are not that sensitive to price increases. CPW is just a little slow to the party.

 

[S.Clancy]

I crack up every time I hear non residents complain about the state that is by far the most generous to NR, to the detriment of its own residents. If you want better odds and cheaper tags, then move. Until then, no one cares

Colorado could also match current tag revenue by doubling resident price, cut NR tags in half to 36k, and bumping NR cost to $1250 to be on par with other surrounding states recent cost increases. You’re not as important as you think you are.

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Well, I can tell you those Montana elk tags sold to NR is wrong. Especially if you are including B tags, which I think you should.

License Sales Reports | Montana FWP

All reports are based on the FWP license year, March 1 – February 28th or 29th (leap year).

fwp.mt.gov

 

[CoMulies]

Well, I can tell you those Montana elk tags sold to NR is wrong. Especially if you are including B tags, which I think you should.

License Sales Reports | Montana FWP

All reports are based on the FWP license year, March 1 – February 28th or 29th (leap year).

fwp.mt.gov

I’m getting in the ballpark of 23-24k if I add up all the big game and elk nonresident combos. The point remains, Colorado issues far more NR tags than any other state, and it isn’t even remotely close.

I’m not trying to start another R v. NR debate, as someone noted we’re all on the same side here. But we also don’t want to hear a word from NR about CO opportunity and quality given how friendly it is to out of staters.

 

[S.Clancy]

I’m getting in the ballpark of 23-24k if I add up all the big game and elk nonresident combos. The point remains, Colorado issues far more NR tags than any other state, and it isn’t even remotely close.

I’m not trying to start another R v. NR debate, as someone noted we’re all on the same side here. But we also don’t want to hear a word from NR about CO opportunity and quality given how friendly it is to out of staters.

Right. I am very thankful for CO opportunity.

I also think that residents are WAY overestimating other residents or the governing bodies willingness to raise resident prices. They'll about tar and feather you here (MT) if you push that.

 

[WiscoHoundsman]

I know the willingness in WI to raise resident deer tag prices from a $24 license to $44 has a lot of people upset. Not sure if Colorado residents would have the same thoughts but my guess is it’s not too far off.

 

[well_known_rokslider]

I know the willingness in WI to raise resident deer tag prices from a $24 license to $44 has a lot of people upset. Not sure if Colorado residents would have the same thoughts but my guess is it’s not too far off.

not to get too much further off track than we already have, but as a fellow wisco resident I think the big issue with the increase here is just the large disproportional jump. I know its been $20-24 forever, but when you near double it vs just slow and steady steps it comes across as jarring. Especially when there was no apparent need as far as I could tell.

 

[Jethro]

I crack up every time I hear non residents complain about the state that is by far the most generous to NR, to the detriment of its own residents. If you want better odds and cheaper tags, then move. Until then, no one cares

Colorado could also match current tag revenue by doubling resident price, cut NR tags in half to 36k, and bumping NR cost to $1250 to be on par with other surrounding states recent cost increases. You’re not as important as you think you are.

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That chart has been floating around for a year or 2. It wasn’t accurate even when it was released.

 

[ReaptheHeat]

We don't need the revenue anymore with what's coming down the pipe for CO; won't even be going to wildlife conservation.

 

[S.Clancy]

not to get too much further off track than we already have, but as a fellow wisco resident I think the big issue with the increase here is just the large disproportional jump. I know its been $20-24 forever, but when you near double it vs just slow and steady steps it comes across as jarring. Especially when there was no apparent need as far as I could tell.

I think the "doubling it" needs context. It's 20$, I can barely buy a 30 rack of Busch Lattes for that.

 

[Machingeaneer]

I think the "doubling it" needs context. It's 20$, I can barely buy a 30 rack of Busch Lattes for that.

The context is that Wisconsin issued 541k deer licenses last year. That's a revenue increase for the state of nearly 11 million dollars. That's where the displeasure lies.

 

[35WhelenAI]

For your Busch Light shopping pleasure, Walmart in my area is $19.32 for a 30 pack. No, haven't bought it recently, just looked it up.

 

[S.Clancy]

The context is that Wisconsin issued 541k deer licenses last year. That's a revenue increase for the state of nearly 11 million dollars. That's where the displeasure lies.

I guess what I, and maybe others above contend, is we could offset NR $$$ with Resident $$$. Not increasing revenue, but staying at current revenue.

I was also speaking about MT (others about CO). But, MT resident tag costs are very similar to WI