Cold bore zero versus (very) Hot bore zero “test”

[journeyman713]

The idea that your “gun-nuts camp” just wants to stack piles of shell casings and brag about manliness to strangers might just be your perception. The main point being that the more you shoot, the better you get and the chances of success increases, while mistakes decrease.
Most the folks I’ve been around my entire life are in your “one-shot-one-kill camp”. Boomers who baby their equipment that hardly ever gets used, and I’ve witnessed so many shit show rodeos that could’ve been avoided had they spent a little more time mentally in the other camp.
Rokslide is a place that encourages folks to practice, shoot more, adopt more efficient systems and not worry about things that don’t matter. The funny part is the amount of resistance to that advice that gets posted by dudes who feel like there’s some other camp they’re not welcome in because their old system is criticized as less effective.

Big assumption, wrongly, I might add, that the “One shot–one kill” camp, doesn’t practice enough to be very skilled.

We practice plenty, while being mindful it is the first shot that matters, and there’s a point of diminishing return between, being locked in a zone ripping off hundreds of shots in a sitting, vs resetting, and overlaying many series of smaller clusters, over time. We take our time, in a methodical way, maybe mosey on up to the target (while the gun cools), make some notes, repeat, day after day, and compare, until confidence level is very high.

In the end maybe we’re all good shots, but the “Gun–nuts” camp probably goes through way more ammo, believing that’s what makes them better shots. Are they? Takes more than that, to be in the “One shot–one kill” club, where it’s only the first shot, that matters.

I’ve done deer drives with guys that like to ‘shoot a lot’, can always tell when they see something, tend to use every bullet in their gun, fairly ineffectively. In contrast, I’ve had occasions where a hunting partner is outwardly belly laughing, at the distance I’m about to take a wild boar, or a whitetail, then a singular shot – wild game down.


Also, I never said, one camp is better than the other, or which camp to join. Both are fine, be undecided, change if you want to, change back. Don’t care, but know the difference.

 

[Marbles]

Form, haven’t seen you post anything in a while, must be a record.
Many of us are still waiting for you come clean on, “Exactly what happens, when you pour water on a smoking hot barrel and suppressor”. Outside of course, completely voiding the warranties.

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For those waiting, I’ll just add this.

Even though most of us are Hunters, on a Hunting forum, it’s important to recognize we’re not all on the same page, we are two different groups, with different goals. Both are fine, but different.

One group; Dreams of making that first shot count at Trophy game, they practice at ever expanding their ethical shot distance. Let’s call it the “One shot–one kill” camp. They tend to care for their equipment in a way, it could be passed down for generations.

The other group; Dreams of being knee deep in shell casings, then bragging about it as if it’s some measure of manhood, they believe, whoever shoots the most, wins. Let’s call them the “Gun–nuts” camp. They tend to do things in excess for fun, destroying their equipment, is just part of the game.

Very different goals.

So, when a member of the “Gun–nuts” camp makes a statement, often times it’s just about bragging, more to impress strangers than anything else, or maybe to start some ridiculous pissing match, no harm done.

But when they make suggestions… to the “One shot–one kill” camp… Remember, they don’t care about their equipment, and surely not about yours.
Such as, “just pour water on your Smoking hot barrel and Suppressor”. That guy definitely knows better, he just doesn’t care.

As has been pointed out, more than once, he clearly already answered the question.

You have spilled quite a few pixels in the interim, yet still haven't answered why it is a bad idea, despite being asked multiple times. That speaks volumes about your apparent willingness to say things you are unwilling to back up.

 

[Formidilosus]

Belt feds get shot in the rain and the snow. Suppressors get shot in the rain and the snow. Rifles get shot in the rain and the snow.


Complicated and hard to grasp, I know.

 

[jjohnsonElknewbie]

The idea that your “gun-nuts camp” just wants to stack piles of shell casings and brag about manliness to strangers might just be your perception. The main point being that the more you shoot, the better you get and the chances of success increases, while mistakes decrease.
Most the folks I’ve been around my entire life are in your “one-shot-one-kill camp”. Boomers who baby their equipment that hardly ever gets used, and I’ve witnessed so many shit show rodeos that could’ve been avoided had they spent a little more time mentally in the other camp.
Rokslide is a place that encourages folks to practice, shoot more, adopt more efficient systems and not worry about things that don’t matter. The funny part is the amount of resistance to that advice that gets posted by dudes who feel like there’s some other camp they’re not welcome in because their old system is criticized as less effective.

This right here... Well said.