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unless you are from Texas because recoil doesn't matter in Texas...so I am told.To varying degrees absolutely.
But physical size and gender doesn’t limit someone to cartridge X because someone said so.
unless you are from Texas because recoil doesn't matter in Texas...so I am told.To varying degrees absolutely.
But physical size and gender doesn’t limit someone to cartridge X because someone said so.
It doesn't limit them, however I think it would be hard to argue that recoil is going to effect smaller women and children more than a grown man.To varying degrees absolutely.
But physical size and gender doesn’t limit someone to cartridge X because someone said so.
Nice generalization. So to recap…It doesn't limit them, however I think it would be hard to argue that recoil is going to effect smaller women and children more than a grown man.
I think a better analogy would be that smaller people (having less mass to absorb the recoil, are better served by starting hunting using a cartridge that doesn't beat them up. They are better served with a lighter gun that is easier to carry and handle.Nice generalization. So to recap…
* All grown men are tough and can handle all things (except the man cold which is worse than drug-free child birth).
* All women and children are frail and can barely handle a 22 LR.
You read the OPs post and came away with the notion that he's trying to "dictate" what someone uses? It came off to me like he was trying to help. How should the person decide if not for the help of others?Never understood why some feel the need to dictate what cartridge “small framed” people in their lives should use. Let the individual decide as we are all different.
Of those three, without knowing anything about the shooter or how the gun will be used, I'd go with a 243. 100% of people in the real world shoot milder recoiling guns better. The real world is markedly different form the worldwide web where 99% of shooters shoot a 375 Weatherby as well as they do a 223.Looking for some input here, which I know has been debated over and over. We’re looking to buy a rifle for a new smaller frame shooter (5’4”). I’d like to buy a tried and true cartridges that is not likely to “go out of style”. Not interested in 6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC.
Been looking at .308, .270, and .243. Thoughts? Suggestions?
There is definitely a good bit of recoil. It’s a pretty light rifle and that’s my one complaint. When we’re shooting at the range, the gun doesn’t get brought out very often, mostly a 6.5 or .223. But for straight hunting purposes, the rifle is great for 300 yds and in.Thanks for the reply. Did she get trigger shy at all from the kick? That’s one thing we’re both trying to avoid.
The gun would be used for both target and hunting. Range - Under 400 yds. Terrain - will vary depending on the hunt, but definitely not super dense forest.Of those three, without knowing anything about the shooter or how the gun will be used, I'd go with a 243. 100% of people in the real world shoot milder recoiling guns better. The real world is markedly different form the worldwide web where 99% of shooters shoot a 375 Weatherby as well as they do a 223.
You used the words "go out of style" right after the comment about the 6.5 Creed. I don't know if those 2 thoughts are connected, but I can assure you that the 6.5 Creed isn't going out of style.
Additional thoughts? I wonder why you wouldn't mention how the gun will be used. Target, hunting, long range, woods? You know, any information that you could give that would help others give you better targeted advice.
Yes, generally people who have less mass are moved around more by recoil. I never said grown men can handle all things, the average man starts shooting worse after 15 ft/lbs of recoil. Expecting women and children who generally weigh less and have less muscle mass to do any better is an odd stance to take. Where has anyone tried saying they can't handle .22lr? You're on a forum where the most popular thread is grown men advocating other grown men to shoot .223.Nice generalization. So to recap…
* All grown men are tough and can handle all things (except the man cold which is worse than drug-free child birth).
* All women and children are frail and can barely handle a 22 LR.
The 6.5 Creed is not going anywhere. Time has already told! It is here to stay. I just pulled guns listed as in stock in the Sportsman's Warehouse online inventory. There are 232 different 6.5 Creeds in stock. The next most common in stock is the 308 at 139 in stock. No others are in double figures. The 243 shows at 58 and the 270 at 37.The gun would be used for both target and hunting. Range - Under 400 yds. Terrain - will vary depending on the hunt, but definitely not super dense forest.
As to the gong out of style comment. Time will tell, for the 6.5 Creedmoor, if it stays as popular or relevant as it is now. I know a lot of people who love it, but the flip side of that is something like .243 or .308 that’s got a decades long history of being a solid cartridge.
I’m just hoping to get some input to see if there’s pro/cons I may be overlooking for the cartridges listed, or if there are ones that I haven’t thought about yet.
Many women developed a flinch after their first child.Tongue in cheek
Only on Rokslide: women can give birth but somehow cannot handle a bit of recoil.
Yep.I started my kids on .223 for cf then moved my daughter to a 7/08 Tikka at around 14. She handles the recoil fine, as long as she mounts the gun correctly which is a big part of recoil management. That and proper stock fit will go a looong way in handling recoil.