Canadian Forest Lockdowns?

[dirtshooter]

I know it's crazy to hear but in Canada few fires are actually wild. Most are manmade by ecotards pushing an angeda. These measures are insane.

 

[Steve300xcw]

Yeah, but 2 hour fire watch at the end of the day with a case of beer wasn't the worst thing.

I'd rather drive a pickup full of truck drivers down the hill than do fire watch. Beer thing woulda been an issue.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I know it's crazy to hear but in Canada few fires are actually wild. Most are manmade by ecotards pushing an angeda. These measures are insane.

And idiots that need a fire because they are camping and its just not camping without a fire. Have seen sxs's and bikes catch fire same for pickups and equipment. Been a few from hikers burning toilet paper even.

I dont blame them at all for shutting things down for a bit.

 

[dirtshooter]

Honestly a lot of "new" errr Canadians set fires unintentionally because back homes there's nothing to burn in the sand but in our parks everything lights up when they leave their fires smouldering.

 

[Tower13]

Friends north of the boarder, just saw something stating that in Nova Scotia it’s not illegal to enter a forest and unnecessary activities like hunting camping hiking fishing are all now off limits and carry a $25,000 fine for violating. What’s up with that??
The video said the justification was due to wildfires that burned 200 homes. But it’s gotta be more than that.

Anyhow, if that’s really true and that you can’t even hike in the forest, how crap that sucks.

Happened to us one year in Montana. The fire was 20+ miles away and they closed the area we were going to hunt.

 

[J Batt]

Yep, seems about 90% of you all are fine with being managed by the government. That tracks with history.

 

[tater]

Yep, seems about 90% of you all are fine with being managed by the government. That tracks with history.

Unless you have a full fire kit in your truck, spend four weeks every spring preparing your property to make it as defended as possible against wildfire (including pumps/sprinklers and guards), and have actually BEEN in a real wildfire your opinion is a fart in a pair of coveralls.

 

[J Batt]

Unless you have a full fire kit in your truck, spend four weeks every spring preparing your property to make it as defended as possible against wildfire (including pumps/sprinklers and guards), and have actually BEEN in a real wildfire your opinion is a fart in a pair of coveralls.

what does your private property have to do with public land?
Just because you bought property next to public land doesn’t make your opinion more valid than mine or anyone else.

 

[J Batt]

Unless you have a full fire kit in your truck, spend four weeks every spring preparing your property to make it as defended as possible against wildfire (including pumps/sprinklers and guards), and have actually BEEN in a real wildfire your opinion is a fart in a pair of coveralls.

i personally don’t give a shit how much fire prep you’ve done and how many fires you’ve fought. If you wanna measure dicks then yes I have had to evacuate because of forest fires.
I don’t care whose house burns down, including mine, that doesn’t give anyone the authority to say no one can use the forest.
If they need to close a specific area to work on an active fire that is one thing. But now they preemptively shut down because it’s too dry, wet, contagious, or just “unsafe”.
If you’re fine in living in a world like that then I don’t think we have much to talk about.
I believe people are responsible for their own safety. I don’t want to live in a world where liberty is suspended every time it is inconvenient or unsafe.

 

[tater]

"A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with an opinion."
-John Bytheway

Most fires that destroy private property are started on public land. And the fires of today are not the fires our families fought a generation ago.These fires generate their own weather systems.

We had a fire here in 2015 that ran an entire valley in an hour (started on public) at a rate of 15Mi/hr.
Wiped out over 50 homes. It was a miracle no lives were lost.

Ah, i just saw your latest post. This is some lock-down hangover from the "vid" for you.
And no, its not about "dick measuring", its about risk management and community values.

If you are fine losing property, loved ones, and everything to fire, your call.
Not everyone shares your value sets.

 

[BBob]

I believe people are responsible for their own safety. I don’t want to live in a world where liberty is suspended every time it is inconvenient or unsafe.

I don’t think it’s as much about keeping us safe but more about keeping the dipshits from doing stupid stuff that keep burning our forests down. Do I like it? No

 

[bozeman]

More lockdowns for everyone's 'safety'......yeah, that worked so well during Covid......risk/benefit. Benefit of owning land and large houses vs the risk of losing them.

 

[J Batt]

I don’t think it’s as much about keeping us safe but more about keeping the dipshits from doing stupid stuff that keep burning our forests down. Do I like it? No

So ban guns too then. Lots of dipshits with guns

 

[J Batt]

"A man with experience is never at the mercy of a man with an opinion."
-John Bytheway

Most fires that destroy private property are started on public land. And the fires of today are not the fires our families fought a generation ago.These fires generate their own weather systems.

We had a fire here in 2015 that ran an entire valley in an hour (started on public) at a rate of 15Mi/hr.
Wiped out over 50 homes. It was a miracle no lives were lost.

Ah, i just saw your latest post. This is some lock-down hangover from the "vid" for you.
And no, its not about "dick measuring", its about risk management and community values.

If you are fine losing property, loved ones, and everything to fire, your call.
Not everyone shares your value sets.

Fair enough. I get that people are afraid of fires, but I see them as just a part of life.
And like I said it’s not just fires or dry weather that they close land around here.
One of the Canadian officials even admitted that hiking won’t cause fires but the reason they need to” lock it down”, is because they don’t have the resources to help you in case of emergency. Invalid reason in my opinion. My safety is my responsibility.

 

[tater]

Well, its not always "dipshits" that start fires.
Two examples:

My LEH goat draw got FUBAR'd in 2018 when a logging crew at the mouth of my drainage started a fire with a chain. Almost lost three faller/bunchers, and the crew scrambled to make it back across the bridge . That fire burned almost 90 km square by the time it was done.

Second one is I was wrapping up bucking personal firewood on a road side. When i was done i stopped to grab a water and snack and do a site check before leaving (always do it).
I had been done for ten minutes when i looked over and saw a wisp of smoke curl and then flame. I had inadvertently tipped my bar onto a rock while bucking and sent a spark into a piece of grandfather moss that smoldered for at least twenty minutes. If i hadn't stayed, it would have been me that was the "dipshit". Hauled out my gear and extinguished the fire that was starting to kick off.

I know a few other guys that in moments of honesty have shared times where they have inadvertently lit debris with saws, quads and vehicle exhausts and have scrambled to put them out.

J Batt, just want to express my appreciation for being able to disagree like gentlemen. That's what makes Rokslide the place it is.

 

[J Batt]

Roger that Tater.
Yeah, one of the biggest fires ever in my area (280,000 acres) was started by a downed power line because of high winds 60mph. And I’ve heard from firefighters that many fires around my area are started by arsons but they keep it on the downlow. Im pretty certain an arson doesn’t care about forest closures.