Canada gun question

[buckpro]

Any tips from those that have flown into Canada lately with firearms? It seems the rules have changed the last few years. My last two trips to the Yukon I packed ammo in the gun case, removed bolt, taped it to the stock and put a gun lock on it. Never a issue. in 21 they never even opened the case.
What I am seeing now is the ammo and bolt has to be in seperate checked bag?

 

[medvedyt]

which airline company are you using?

for ammo in canada it has been since a while that they have to be shipped on a separate bag/box and does not exceed 5 kgs or 11 lbs.

you need to request the permission of the airline before showing at the airport for the firearms,we re often bringing back ammunition from the south with no problem firearms need approval and we re never using air canada.

for the firearm license and i will repeat do not sign before requested by cbsa officer.

Import and export a firearm or weapon into Canada.

List of prohibited weapons, firearms classification and information to import and export weapons.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

 

[bradb]

It's simple with nothing special done, at least in my case. Rules on ammo seem to be airline and worker dependent, with it packed separate bag from firearm the best. Otherwise it's really just show up, show it's unloaded(bolt out is easiest) sign the card lock it in the case. Again a bit airline and worker dependent but have a lock on any place the case has a spot for one. Have your canadian gun declaration done ahead of time, not required but easier. Keep that form handy when flying back out for proof that the gun was yours and brought in....... this about got me 3 weeks ago and would have been interesting, tell I found it in another pocket.
Again this is in my case 3 times in the last 3 years. Really simple

 

[MosquitoCoast]

See this thread from last year:

Bringing guns to Canada

2x within the last year. Both times my firearm was inspected to verify serial numbers but it was a super simple process. That was the first time in the 10 years I've been hunting Canada that I have ever had my gun inspected. Any other questions just let me know. As far as process. Simply fill...

rokslide.com

You will want the US Customs form which you can get ahead of time. That will make your life a WHOLE lot easier going into and out of Canada.

 

[bluemaroon]

I flew into Edmonton last fall for a Sask goose hunt with my shotgun with no issues. I also had boxes of ammo in the same case. Be sure to use non-TSA locks.

The only issue I encountered was at boarding going back home (out of Calgary instead of Edmonton). At check in the agent forgot to handoff some paperwork to the ground loading crew so before I was allowed to board I had to give them my keys so they could confirm serial number on the shotgun before it was loaded on the plane. I also had some ammo in the same case returning home but this was not a problem.

This extra inspection resulted in a slight delay but nothing major and lesson for me was to make sure gate agent does all the paperwork correctly.

I was flying United airlines.

 

[bluemaroon]

Also for whatever it’s worth, I fly into both airports fairly frequently for work and an occasional hunting trip. Edmonton does seem to be more hunter-friendly but the trade off is that it doesn’t have as many direct flights to USA.

If you’re going back to Yukon for hunting I’m sure you can get connections from both airports so Edmonton might be best route depending on where you are starting in USA.

 

[medvedyt]

whitehorse to calgary was/is not a direct flight there will be a stopover to edmonton even if you remain in the same plane it can be an issue for some.

 

[FOS373]

which airline company are you using?

for ammo in canada it has been since a while that they have to be shipped on a separate bag/box and does not exceed 5 kgs or 11 lbs.

you need to request the permission of the airline before showing at the airport for the firearms,we re often bringing back ammunition from the south with no problem firearms need approval and we re never using air canada.

for the firearm license and i will repeat do not sign before requested by cbsa officer.

Import and export a firearm or weapon into Canada.

List of prohibited weapons, firearms classification and information to import and export weapons.

www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca

What is the permission request from the airline? Looking at Air North’s info - i don’t see that.

I’ll call and check with Air North as well, but (I’m assuming) the ammo and bolt need to be in a locked container as well?

Baggage and Carry-On | Air North

See details on Air North's baggage restrictions for carry-on and checked baggage as well as special cargo and prohibited items.

www.flyairnorth.com

 

[Hackleback]

Like Ive mentioned before, print the rules out (both the airlines and Canada/US) and highlight the pertinent parts. When someone tells you something you know is incorrect, pulling out these docs usually shuts them down.

 

[bascott1]

Pretty sure when I went last august I had my ammo in my checked bag and left my bolt in. They never looked at my gun. Went to a back room and showed em my paperwork and left. It was pretty simple,

 

[medvedyt]

What is the permission request from the airline? Looking at Air North’s info - i don’t see that.

I’ll call and check with Air North as well, but (I’m assuming) the ammo and bolt need to be in a locked container as well?

Baggage and Carry-On | Air North

See details on Air North's baggage restrictions for carry-on and checked baggage as well as special cargo and prohibited items.

www.flyairnorth.com

yes Air north does not require you to inform them about firearms but do try that with air canada ...
here is from the air north website:

Firearms​

Unloaded firearms may be accepted as checked baggage or cargo as long as as the following conditions are met:

• The firearms must be in a locked hard-sided case.
• Bolt-action firearms must have the bolt removed and packed in a separate item of checked baggage.
• The passenger will be required to sign a firearms declaration form indicating that the firearm is unloaded and acknowledging responsibility under the criminal code for the carriage of a weapon.
• Only ammunition in Division 1.4S, as defined in the IATA Dangerous Goods Regulations, weighing less than 5 kg (11 lb) per passenger, will be accepted for carriage as checked baggage. The ammunition must be packed securely, preferably in the original container, or in a container specifically designed for the carriage of small arms ammunition. Ammunition not included in Division 1.4S will not be accepted as checked baggage.
• Ammunition weighing more than 5 kg (11 lb) must be shipped as cargo. Shippers must comply with the provisions of the dangerous goods regulations. Firearms and ammunition must be packed separately.
• Passengers transiting from an unsecured airport through a secured airport must claim their firearm and ammunition and escort them through the oversized item security screening area.

 

[ACK8]

Pretty sure when I went last august I had my ammo in my checked bag and left my bolt in. They never looked at my gun. Went to a back room and showed em my paperwork and left. It was pretty simple,

This is the same experience I had last August and I flew Air North in and out of Whitehorse.

 

[buckpro]

This is the same experience I had last August and I flew Air North in and out of Whitehorse.

I may just ask forgiveness instead of permission.

 

[FOS373]

contacted Air North on their ammo / bolt policy:

Thank you for your email and reaching out. The ammo needs to be in its own case without anything else in it aside form ammo and the case needs to be secure or locked to avoid the possibility of ammo coming loose during the flight. The weight limit for ammo is 11lb. The bolt can be placed just in your checked bag.


Hope this helps, please let us know if you have any other questions!


Best,

Victoria C. Customer Service Air North, Yukon's Airline

 

[medvedyt]

Air north the best to deal with.