Australian gun owners are terrorists

[medvedyt]

Back after getting banned for my comment. I will probably get banned permanently but here it is. The problem IS ISLAM. I'm not saying theres not good muslims, good muslims exist just like good athiest, buddhist, Christians and everything in-between exist. But there is one true God and that is the God of the bible. Islam is a lie and it is written in islam scripture to kill unbelievers.

From islam scriptures

Slay unbelievers wherever you find them

War on those who do not belive in allaah

War on them until there is no disbelief

Strike in the neck of the unbelievers

Size them and kill them

Allah loves those who make War in his cause

Your captives of War are your sexual slaves

Do not befriend or tolerate Jews or Christians

You will not enter paradise without making War on non believers

Execute or crucify those who would War with allah

Islam IS the problem

change it by jews and look up the nazi regime and what they did. when you try to find an excuse to get rid of people you will always find a good way to do so ...

 

[average]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Spreading hate thinking it's patriotic or Christian is a problem

 

[Fireflyfishing]

You all have 3 years to buy as much guns and ammo you can afford. Then the shelves will be empty…again.

 

[TradLife406]

Islam is a big piece of the problem

Juice boxes egging them on doesn't help either. They'll stir the pot then play the victim card. Time and time again.
That doesn't justify the violence of the Muslims though. Just pointing out it's a much bigger issue with many layers that's very complex.

 

[TradLife406]

Hitler, Stalin, Mao.

Nothing more needs to be said....

Hitler actually loosened firearm restrictions for German citizens. Opened more gun ranges too. But when you lose the war you can't write the mainstream history books.

 

[roadrunner]

Hitler actually loosened firearm restrictions for German citizens. Opened more gun ranges too. But when you lose the war you can't write the mainstream history books.

Hitler actually made sure any ethnicity or creed he was against wasn't armed or couldn't obtain a firearm.

One word: Holocaust. Good thing they didn't get to write the mainstream history books...

 

[Billy Goat]

Keep stuff inline so the thread can stay open for civil discussion.

Never mind.

This thread has continued to go down the shitter.

If we are at defending genocide because history wasn't written fairly, this just needs to be locked and probably go away.

 

[RockAndSage]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances".

Spreading hate thinking it's patriotic or Christian is a problem

*cites freedom of speech, criticizes freedom of speech as hate

 

[RockAndSage]

Never mind.

This thread has continued to go down the shitter.

If we are at defending genocide because history wasn't written fairly, this just needs to be locked and probably go away.

I got censored in this thread (subsequently restored) for saying one culture was so polite that it's incapable of defending itself.

Which is almost identical to the recently released National Security Strategy by the president, noting various European countries are in danger of self "erasure" by importing excessive amounts of foreign cultures - especially ones whose culture codes are incompatible with the host cultures.

This is a conversation that is legitimate and must be had.

Censoring this conversation for anything short of calls for violence is exactly what leads to the violent being protected by disarming the peaceful.

 

[Billy Goat]

I got censored in this thread (subsequently restored) for saying one culture was so polite that it's incapable of defending itself.

Which is almost identical to the recently released National Security Strategy by the president, noting various European countries are in danger of self "erasure" by importing excessive amounts of foreign cultures - especially ones whose culture codes are incompatible with the host cultures.

This is a conversation that is legitimate and must be had.

Censoring this conversation for anything short of calls for violence is exactly what leads to the violent being protected by disarming the peaceful.

You feel thats a discussion for RokSlide?

Let's just go ahead and figure all this shit out then.

 

[RockAndSage]

You feel thats a discussion for RokSlide?

Let's just go ahead and figure all this shit out then.

In the context of gun control, yes, I very much do.

To do otherwise, is to stick your head in the sand and hope they don't come for your rights next.

 

[roadrunner]

Never mind.

This thread has continued to go down the shitter.

If we are at defending genocide because history wasn't written fairly, this just needs to be locked and probably go away.

Sorry, but the very topic is laced with any of the tenets related to terrorism. Genocide is one of those tenets.

Sorry if you don't like it, that's just how it is...

 

[average]

*cites freedom of speech, criticizes freedom of speech as hate

Yes still protected by the first amendment. Just like the Muslims. Doesn't make your hate for a group based on the actions of a few justifiable.

In the context of gun control, yes, I very much do.

To do otherwise, is to stick your head in the sand and hope they don't come for your rights next.

You are quite literally going after the rights of others somehow thinking that's adding protection for your rights.

What a dumpster fire tho. One guy claiming hitler wasn't that bad and then another posting against Hitler while seemingly pushing religious cleansing

 

[fwafwow]

You feel thats a discussion for RokSlide?

I don't want to speak for @Billy Goat, but talking about gun rights (and threats thereto) has veered off topic, at least in some of the posts. Seems to have strayed from this mandate in the forum rules - even for the General forum.

 

[RockAndSage]

Yes still protected by the first amendment. Just like the Muslims. Doesn't make your hate for a group based on the actions of a few justifiable.

You are quite literally going after the rights of others somehow thinking that's adding protection for your rights.

What a dumpster fire tho. One guy claiming hitler wasn't that bad and then another posting against Hitler while seemingly pushing religious cleansing

Your comments seem to be designed to inflame and cause division - accusing others of hate, and going after rights in this thread, while posting anti-government stuff in other threads. Как это по-русски с вашей стороныm, братан.

 

[RockAndSage]

I don't want to speak for @Billy Goat, but talking about gun rights (and threats thereto) has veered off topic, at least in some of the posts. Seems to have strayed from this mandate in the forum rules - even for the General forum.

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the OP talked about gun control, and how his government was pushing hard for it after Islalmist/ISIS terrorists used guns in his country to kill the innocent and the disarmed. So, thus far, I'm not seeing where this has gone off-topic, or how it violates any of the forum's rules. Sincere point, and open to being shown otherwise.

 

[average]

Your comments seem to be designed to inflame and cause division - accusing others of hate, and going after rights in this thread, while posting anti-government stuff in other threads. Как это по-русски с вашей стороныm, братан.

Yeah I'm totally Russian. Our rights are all connected. Throwing Muslims under the bus isn't going to save our gun rights or Australia's.

 

[Billy Goat]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the OP talked about gun control, and how his government was pushing hard for it after Islalmist/ISIS terrorists used guns in his country to kill the innocent and the disarmed. So, thus far, I'm not seeing where this has gone off-topic, or how it violates any of the forum's rules. Sincere point, and open to being shown otherwise.

Where in the past 2 pages has it involved that original assertion?

I have had many threads deleted and gotten my peepee slapped for "taking things off topic"


Somehow this discussion of gun control has turned to religion and dictatorship

 

[fwafwow]

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the OP talked about gun control, and how his government was pushing hard for it after Islalmist/ISIS terrorists used guns in his country to kill the innocent and the disarmed. So, thus far, I'm not seeing where this has gone off-topic, or how it violates any of the forum's rules. Sincere point, and open to being shown otherwise.

I'm not the best person to judge, as I'm sure I've crossed a line plenty of times. The post about Islam and scriptures seemed, to me, to have veered off topic and seems inconsistent with the rule that says "Don't post anything that could be considered hateful or mean-spirited, or intolerant of a person's race, culture, appearance, gender, sexual preference, religion or age." I could probably find some Biblical verses, especially from the Old Testament, that if taken out of context, might be just as inflammatory.

Imposing stricture gun control to me seems the central issue that can lead to meaningful and courteous discussion.

EDIT - and thanks for the tone and saying "sincere point" as there is too often much lost in translation here. And I don't care if someone wants to post broad point about an entire religion - I just don't think RS is the place for it.

 

[wind gypsy]

Back after getting banned for my comment. I will probably get banned permanently but here it is. The problem IS ISLAM. I'm not saying theres not good muslims, good muslims exist just like good athiest, buddhist, Christians and everything in-between exist. But there is one true God and that is the God of the bible. Islam is a lie and it is written in islam scripture to kill unbelievers.

From islam scriptures

Slay unbelievers wherever you find them

War on those who do not belive in allaah

War on them until there is no disbelief

Strike in the neck of the unbelievers

Size them and kill them

Allah loves those who make War in his cause

Your captives of War are your sexual slaves

Do not befriend or tolerate Jews or Christians

You will not enter paradise without making War on non believers

Execute or crucify those who would War with allah

Islam IS the problem

Similar sentiments exist in the Jewish Talmud.

Anything like that in the bible? (honest question - i'm not religious)