Can we legalize suppressors now?

[Flyjunky]

Not everyone is willing to uproot their families, leave family behind, leave good jobs, good climate, and geography. I’d love to leave but my wife does not. The other states don’t want us and honestly can’t blame em. Ca is the greatest state in the country but has the worst politics. It’s a crap shoot. Hopefully things will get so bad in LA and SF that the people are obligated to abandon the bullshit policies they are tied to.

I doubt things in CA will change anytime soon but the amount of red that appeared during the election this year was impressive. Hopefully you guys can keep moving in that direction.

 

[arlenter]

Didn't forget it. It didn't effect me. I was paying for everyone at home and work's insurance already. I'd actually welcome legislation choking heath insurance providers tomorrow.
I meant he did nothing on gun control issues.

It affected everyone to some extent. Probably the biggest/best thing it did was, allowed pre-existing conditions to NOT affect your ability to get healthcare. Something Trump was against, at the time - saying it would hurt insurance companies to force them to cover people.

Now, Trump praises the pre-existing condition law, as his idea - after not changing the healthcare system at all...

anyways - relevant to OP. Nah nothin' is gonna happen, except maybe additional executive order regulation from Trump if 'bad' things start to happen.

 

[KenLee]

It affected everyone to some extent. Probably the biggest/best thing it did was, allowed pre-existing conditions to NOT affect your ability to get healthcare. Something Trump was against, at the time - saying it would hurt insurance companies to force them to cover people.

Now, Trump praises the pre-existing condition law, as his idea - after not changing the healthcare system at all...

anyways - relevant to OP. Nah nothin' is gonna happen, except maybe additional executive order regulation from Trump if 'bad' things start to happen.

The pre-existing condition mandate helped many of my clients and neighbors. Like I said before, I voted for Obama twice. He was harmless. McCain was a warmonger and Romney was a complete chameleon. Didn't trust him at all.

 

[Marbles]

The pre-existing condition mandate helped many of my clients and neighbors. Like I said before, I voted for Obama twice. He was harmless. McCain was a warmonger and Romney was a complete chameleon. Didn't trust him at all.

Funny, Romney is one of the few who did not say one thing about the current president elect in early 2016, then change his tune once the nomination was clinched, nor after the election. Hard to take calling him a chameleon seriously at this point, weather or not one agrees with him.

Cannot say the same about most Republicans in office today who had a platform in 2016.

Of course, it sounds (could be wrong) like your positions have also changed to an extent given you voted for Obama, sometimes we start out wrong and the change is needed, but it undercuts condemning others as a chameleon.

 

[KenLee]

I vote on the candidates, not the party

Funny, Romney is one of the few who did not say one thing about the current president elect in early 2016, then change his tune once the nomination was clinched, nor after the election. Hard to take calling him a chameleon seriously at this point, weather or not one agrees with him.

Cannot say the same about most Republicans in office today who had a platform in 2016.

Of course, it sounds (could be wrong) like your positions have also changed to an extent given you voted for Obama, sometimes we start out wrong and the change is needed, but it undercuts condemning others as a chameleon.

Romney voted to impeach Trump.
I'd vote for Bill Clinton in 2028 if his mind still worked and he could run. Romney is the definition of RINO...but often he played conservative.

 

[Marbles]

I vote on the candidates, not the party

Romney voted to impeach Trump.
I'd vote for Bill Clinton in 2028 if his mind still worked and he could run.

My point. I'm not going to get into whether Romney was right or wrong, but his position stayed consistent to his personal cost. I respect that, even in people I disagree with.

I was in the same room when Marco Rubio called Trump a con man in 2016, either he was knowingly slandering an opponent, was speaking without having taken the time to educate himself, or decided he was fine with having a con man in office, because he changed his tune shortly after. None of those three options are respectable.

 

[KenLee]

I was in the same room when Marco Rubio called Trump a con man in 2016, either he was knowingly slandering an opponent, was speaking without having taken the time to educate himself, or decided he was fine with having a con man in office, because he changed his tune shortly after. None of those three options are respectable.

Like Vance???

 

[Fartrell Cluggins]

Ya know, we collectively could band together to make this happen. It's pretty much a stroke of the pen deregulation.

 

[mt terry d]

He didn't do it last time, maybe if we get both houses it can get done.

Yes! 'Murica baby!!!!

Oh, wait.

He had both houses last time.

nevermind

 

[ThorM465]

Yes! 'Murica baby!!!!

Oh, wait.

He had both houses last time.

nevermind

No he unequivocally did not. The uniparty controlled congress last time. I'm not claiming it will be better this time, only time will tell.

 

[KenLee]

No he unequivocally did not. The uniparty controlled congress last time. I'm not claiming it will be better this time, only time will tell.

Yeah, he clearly did. Politicians simply don't want to fix their "talking points".
I do think Trump has the power and influence to put the party in line this time...if he truly wants to.

 

[Bluefish]

Even with federal changes states like IL will still ban them. At this point, the states outright banning them are way more of an issue than paying for a tax stamp…. I can own and use suppressors as an IN resident but cross into IL with it (where I do 95% of my hunting) and it’s a felony….

There is the hope that if they are treated as any other firearm, it can be argued that those laws are unconstitutional just like awb’s.

While I don’t thing a suppressor is an arm, it is treated that way in the nfa. Thus it’s an arm.

 

[ThorM465]

Yeah, he clearly did. Politicians simply don't want to fix their "talking points".
I do think Trump has the power and influence to put the party in line this time...if he truly wants to.

If that's what you think you don't understand DC at all. The "two party" system is a farce. We have a uniparty with a few outliers that actually runs this country. Trump is one of those outliers, which is precisely why he has been demonized and attacked the way he has been.

The only part we can agree on is that politicians don't want to fix the problems they run on. Say what you will about Trump that's not true of him.

 

[KenLee]

There is the hope that if they are treated as any other firearm, it can be argued that those laws are unconstitutional just like awb’s.

While I don’t thing a suppressor is an arm, it is treated that way in the nfa. Thus it’s an arm.

5th Circuit Court of Appeals is set to decide this issue early December. US v Peterson.

 

[bradmacmt]

Like Vance???

 

[Wyo_hntr]

Kinda like how kamala called Biden a racist, then became his vp. Weird huh

 

[EastHumboldt]

Politics makes strange bedfellows. Been true for 5,000 years. As far as the new administration, the guy’s actually been shot at and it seems it might happen again. (There are a number of Dems who have guns and know how to use them). So I doubt if he’s in favor of tech that makes a gunshot quieter.

 

[IDVortex]

I wish it would happen, but then I woke up from my dream of politicians actually standing up for the constitution and kicked myself in the nuts for thinking that. Yes, Trump is just a politician too. (No wonder i have no friends)

 

[Antares]

The only part we can agree on is that politicians don't want to fix the problems they run on. Say what you will about Trump that's not true of him.

Umm, did home boy not help kill the border bill because the immigration issue was central to his campaign?

 

[Ringbill27]

I had a guy at the range call my silencer a “moderator” I was like bro, shut the F@&j up.

I hope you slapped him. I prefer gun muffler myself.