Burris Veracity Gen II 2.5-12.... Thoughts?

[Brandon_SPC]

The reticle is definitely interesting. Not sure of the reason for the vertical line. The weight is 25 ounces. The price tag is definitely more affordable than the NF line. Thoughts?

Veracity™ 2.5-12x42mm | Burris Optics

www.burrisoptics.com

 

[Chris in TN]

I like it a lot. Burris's better scope lines tend to get good reviews from people who actually hunt with them but I don't think they've fared well in drop tests.

I still like them and kinda want one now. I wish that reticle was available in the 3-15x but yeah, I'm interested here, if the actual street price gets right. Meaning, what the Gen1 has been going for lately.

 

[joshdidthis]

It's a rear/second focal plane scope so I think they kinda missed going sfp. Looks to be a great option if they made it ffp. Be curious how it fares in the drop test.

 

[Tmac]

I’ve had a Veracity on a 6mm ARC for 2 years. It’s been a good scope. Get’s little to moderate use as a set and forget scope. Not babied, but not dropped.

Also have a Fullfield on a Ruger American Ranch 5.56 for 4 years that gets abused by my grandkids/son. Not dropped I know of, but rides around in a vehicle/utv a bunch and used for a thousand ish rounds minimum a year. Tossed in/on the back seat, gun carrier and tailgate. Targets, deer, elk and prairie dogs to date. Set and forget use and so far has not needed to be reset.

I think they are solid set and forget scopes but doubt they are up to to Nightforce ruggedness, but I don’t know for sure. I’d have no issue using one hunting and we have and do, but if I was after mature horns or shooting very far, I’d pick a different scope. So far the Burris scopes have killed well for the grands on small bucks and cows to 150 ish yards. That’s probably where they will remain. Really no different than my set and forget Leupolds, and I mentally place them in that use class.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

It's a rear/second focal plane scope so I think they kinda missed going sfp. Looks to be a great option if they made it ffp. Be curious how it fares in the drop test.

I'm personally not to worried about the SFP since it's in a 2-12. Frankly if I am holding for wind, where I need to use the reticle, I'll already be at 12X magnification. Outside of that, I generally have never had to worry about it. At least with my Mark 4HD 2.5-10 SFP.

 

[Brandon_SPC]

I’ve had a Veracity on a 6mm ARC for 2 years. It’s been a good scope. Get’s little to moderate use as a set and forget scope. Not babied, but not dropped.

Also have a Fullfield on a Ruger American Ranch 5.56 for 4 years that gets abused by my grandkids/son. Not dropped I know of, but rides around in a vehicle/utv a bunch and used for a thousand ish rounds minimum a year. Tossed in/on the back seat, gun carrier and tailgate. Targets, deer, elk and prairie dogs to date. Set and forget use and so far has not needed to be reset.

I think they are solid set and forget scopes but doubt they are up to to Nightforce ruggedness, but I don’t know for sure. I’d have no issue using one hunting and we have and do, but if I was after mature horns or shooting very far, I’d pick a different scope. So far the Burris scopes have killed well for the grands on small bucks and cows to 150 ish yards. That’s probably where they will remain. Really no different than my set and forget Leupolds, and I mentally place them in that use class.

My pops has a 10+ year old fullfield that seems to hold zero year after year. He shoots his rifles often and unless he changes loads, he never seems to have to mess with it.

 

[Tmac]

My pops has a 10+ year old fullfield that seems to hold zero year after year. He shoots his rifles often and unless he changes loads, he never seems to have to mess with it.

I have one that has been on a 221 FB for over 30 years. It’s a nice wood stock so gets watched over pretty carefully, has not moved to date. Forgot about that one till I read about your Dad’s.

 

[Mtndawger]

I’ve been looking at this lines of scopes for awhile. That 3-15 ffp looks good. I’ve owned a couple other models but I think Burris scopes tend to have a longer than average ocular lense end which combined with the short tubes and long eye relief they force you to mount the scope farther forward than direct mount rings will allow. A rail can overcome this but only with higher rings to get the scope forward enough.

 

[Tvfd911]

I'm very curious about it. From what I've seen, the reticle in the first gen was one of the best out there for visibility real world hunting conditions through the entire zoom range. Looking at the pictures of the new reticles, I'm hoping they didn't slim down the posts too much where they will be hard to see zoomed out in timber. I have a first gen 2.5 to 10 and have been happy with it. I actually have an outstanding back order on two other first gens since well before the announcement because the price was very right on them and was going to give me the opportunity to have consistent optics and reticles across a few of my core rifles. Hearing they've improved the glass, I think the Gen 2 is going to have a lot to offer. I just hope the the first focal plane reticle is going to be fully useful without having to rely on illumination

 

[Randy11]

It'll be interesting to see how much these weigh.

Burris site shows the 2.5-12x42 weighing more than the 3-15x44, and Europtic has a completely different (lighter) weight listed.

There's also discrepancies with FFP/SFP.

 

[Dualsight]

I like it a lot. Burris's better scope lines tend to get good reviews from people who actually hunt with them but I don't think they've fared well in drop tests.

I still like them and kinda want one now. I wish that reticle was available in the 3-15x but yeah, I'm interested here, if the actual street price gets right. Meaning, what the Gen1 has been going for lately.

It'll be interesting to see how much these weigh.

Burris site shows the 2.5-12x42 weighing more than the 3-15x44, and Europtic has a completely different (lighter) weight listed.

There's also discrepancies with FFP/SFP.

Chris in TN​

In a past search, I could only find the Burris Signature HD for the drop test. As memory serves this Burris failed, but with an unusual twist. After performing a drop test the first shot was off, but the shot self-corrected and the subsequent rounds were on target.

Burris "sister company" is Steiner. Formidilosus did a drop test and it failed. What I interpret from the thread it was an earlier version of the T6Xi series. Sometime later (July of 2023) a person bought a newer version of the T6Xi scope and replicated Form's drop test; this time it passed. Steiner T6xi 3-18x56 MSR2 Mini Field Eval

From what I've read, this new 2026 Veracity lenses are updates using the same as in the Steiner's H6Xi. I am wondering if the Veracity also uses the same erector/turret configuration as the Steiner?

I also wish the 3PW-MOA reticle was available in the 3-15x. The S2H scope's huge thread on Rokslide looks great, but I can't use a center dot due to an astigmatism; all I see is a comet. The small center crosshair that Burris and Steiner don't bloom for me and works great!

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Randy11​

I agree, those weight number don't seem correct. There are a lot of errors on Burris's website in regard to specification. There is one correction change made from earlier in the week with a metric (mm) to imperial (inches) conversion in the download manual on the Burris website. However, the eye relief is still inconsistent. An online article about the new 2026 Veracity scopes mentioned the eyebox was more generous and stated the larger eye relief numbers.

These pictures are captures from their website; I highlighted the discrepancies in red. They'll get it straightened out eventually. I think a trip to Cabela's is in order to see them in person.

 

[Touchdown88]

I'm personally not to worried about the SFP since it's in a 2-12. Frankly if I am holding for wind, where I need to use the reticle, I'll already be at 12X magnification. Outside of that, I generally have never had to worry about it. At least with my Mark 4HD 2.5-10 SFP.

I looked through one of these yesterday at the expo. Surprisingly, it was a ffp. The reticle looked great through the entire zoom range. I think Burris knocked this one out of the park.

 

[Tvfd911]

I looked through one of these yesterday at the expo. Surprisingly, it was a ffp. The reticle looked great through the entire zoom range. I think Burris knocked this one out of the park.

Did you check out the 3-15? The amount of fine hash area before getting into thicker posts has me wondering what it looks like zoomed out. My original veracity works beautifully looking like a duplex at low power for dark/timber. The pictures of it zoomed in only have me worried. If I went with the 2-12, we lose any subtensions for hold without dialing. I love me a 3 post reticle for quick handling low power, just not sure if it's what I want for out to 600 yards. If I could get a picture of the 3-15 zoomed out and it looks good, I'd be ready to buy two.

 

[Touchdown88]

Sorry, I didnt check the 3-15.

Did you check out the 3-15? The amount of fine hash area before getting into thicker posts has me wondering what it looks like zoomed out. My original veracity works beautifully looking like a duplex at low power for dark/timber. The pictures of it zoomed in only have me worried. If I went with the 2-12, we lose any subtensions for hold without dialing. I love me a 3 post reticle for quick handling low power, just not sure if it's what I want for out to 600 yards. If I could get a picture of the 3-15 zoomed out and it looks good, I'd be ready to buy two.

 

[Randy11]

Did you ask if they would all be FFP? I'm pretty sure the whole veracity always has been.

It's crazy how bad these companies are at giving their customers information about the products.

 

[Dualsight]

I looked through one of these yesterday at the expo. Surprisingly, it was a ffp. The reticle looked great through the entire zoom range. I think Burris knocked this one out of the park.

I can only find the 2026 Veracity 2-12x42mm coming in SFP. Are you sure you weren't looking at the Veracity PH 2-12x42mm? That one comes in FFP. Those two would look the same if the battery was not in and turned on.

 

[Touchdown88]

I can only find the 2026 Veracity 2-12x42mm coming in SFP. Are you sure you weren't looking at the Veracity PH 2-12x42mm? That one comes in FFP. Those two would look the same if the battery was not in and turned on.

Maybe. I thought the HUD was always blacked out. Who knows?

 

[Dualsight]

Maybe. I thought the HUD was always blacked out. Who knows?

I need to correct myself. Those two, the 2026 Burris Veracity Gen2 and the 2026 Burris Veracity PH would not look the same. You are correct, the Veracity PH, without the battery, the HUD would be blacked out. The Veracity Gen2 doesn't have HUD, so no blacked-out area.

 

[Chris in TN]

Anyone seen one of these in the wild yet?

I really do like the reticle, for reasons I've mentioned in other threads before.

 

[Chris in TN]

Anyone seen one of these in the wild yet?

I really do like the reticle, for reasons I've mentioned in other threads before.

Tagging @Formidilosus in this one based on something he said in another thread:

Reasons *I* think (YMMV) this scope would be a candidate for drop testing:

a) The 3PW reticle appears usable in low light, which solves a huge problem amongst dialing scope options.
b) It's SFP, which isn't ideal, but it's only 12x tops (on the 2.5-12x model) so SFP isn't a huge problem for us easterners anyway.
c) I don't think a Veracity has ever been tested, nor have many other Burris scopes that I can find, here. The few past Burris tests I see, have failed, but not the terrible level of failure common in other brands. So, maybe they are 'less bad' and possibly they've got this one right or close to it?
d) It's relatively short/light. Basically this scope would check a whole lot of boxes *if* it was reliable, and street prices look decent if it's reliable. I know a lot of people would prefer mrad and FFP but again, if the optical image quality and reliability were there, a dialing scope that had a bold low light reticle (while still having some windage functionality) would appeal to a bunch of us.

Also, their ad copy says:

RUGGED DESIGN​

Built from a single piece of aerospace aluminum with double sprung turret systems, Veracity riflescopes are designed to take a beating in the harshest of environments.

I mean....that's the sort of claim that makes you think they're daring to be tested.