Brainstorm Solutions for the Western "Tag Crisis"

[BuckSmasher]

What crisis? I can hunt Bull elk, 2 cows, Antelope, Mule Deer, and whitetail every single year.


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Everyone move to Wyoming!!! Issue solved!

Listing my house this afternoon. You have a good realtor recommendation around you?

 

[wind gypsy]

I think the "tag crisis" only exists for people who only want to hunt 350" bulls and 200" bucks across multiple states every fall. Plenty of opportunities to get outdoors chasing a variety of game of all shapes and sizes if you're open to the opportunities. I wish I had more time to pursue them.

If you just need another shoulder mount to complete the western wall in your game room then I think it is totally fair that you struggle to obtain the tag and/or pay dearly for that opportunity.

Big giant bulls and bucks have become so fetishized that many hunters can't see the forest for the trees. I've hunted for 20 years and never killed anything the average guy would call a trophy. Go shoot some squirrels and do some soul searching while you hike.

Love it. The Northern Rockys wolf tags should offer the full western hunting experience if that's what we're after..

 

[Customweld]

It would probably only take one year and every game management agency would be shut down completely for lack of funding.

It'd only cost us about an extra $115 a year to offset no NR tags or licenses being sold. That's off FY 2022 revenue numbers. Of the 120M revenue, under 34M came from NR license and tag revenue. I didn't include fishing license holders, since many of us buy a combo.

 

[wind gypsy]

What crisis? I can hunt Bull elk, 2 cows, Antelope, Mule Deer, and whitetail every single year.

I'm glad we can all agree that WY residents have it good and they dont need 90/10 on deer, elk, and antelope

 

[UpNorth89]

It'd only cost us about an extra $115 a year to offset no NR tags or licenses being sold. That's off FY 2022 revenue numbers. Of the 120M revenue, under 34M came from NR license and tag revenue. I didn't include fishing license holders, since many of us buy a combo.

Residents would scream bloody murder lol.

 

[BuckSmasher]

I'm glad we can all agree that WY residents have it good and they dont need 90/10 on deer, elk, and antelope

Yeah he kinda walked into that one.

 

[grfox92]

Everyone move to Wyoming!!! Issue solved!

Listing my house this afternoon. You have a good realtor recommendation around you?

Yea. My comment was sarcastic. Do you know how I handled the "tag crisis" before I packed up my family and moved 2300 miles away to Wyoming? I waited my turn and was greatfull when I drew a tag.

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[wind gypsy]

It'd only cost us about an extra $115 a year to offset no NR tags or licenses being sold. That's off FY 2022 revenue numbers. Of the 120M revenue, under 34M came from NR license and tag revenue. I didn't include fishing license holders, since many of us buy a combo.

[Montana residents enter the chat] $115 is a 7 years worth of deer tags for me. How are we supposed to feed our family!

 

[BuckSmasher]

Residents would scream bloody murder lol.

I would. But not about the extra $100. As someone that has hunted as a nonresident.

 

[BuckSmasher]

Yea. My comment was sarcastic. Do you know how I handled the "tag crisis" before I packed up my family and moved 2300 miles away to Wyoming? I waited my turn and was greatfull when I drew a tag.

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Is this where we all brag about how we moved and how many resident tags we get now?

I can play! Bet I moved further than you did!

 

[Jason Snyder]

Mentioned here and elsewhere....

Hunt and kill predators in the state you wish to apply for and earn an application. Predator kills would be verified and documented and could even be correlated to the tags/applications. For example in MT: kill a wolf to apply for anything. Kill a few coyotes to earn a deer application. You want to hunt sheep? Kill a lion. Etc...

I know this would financially cripple the state game agencies, but there needs to be more intentional predator hunting.

Pretty hard to rationalize this with the abundance of antlerless tags.

 

[grfox92]

Is this where we all brag about how we moved and how many resident tags we get now?

I can play! Bet I moved further than you did!

Nope. It's being tired of constant threads and comments from guys acting like they are entitled to tags in states they dont live in or contribute too.

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[HunterGatherer]

Nope. It's being tired of constant threads and comments from guys acting like they are entitled to tags in states they dont live on or contribute too.

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Buying points for 10-20 years and paying 10x what a resident does for a tag isn’t considered contributing?

 

[Customweld]

Residents would scream bloody murder lol.

Oh yeah, for sure they would! I'd be right there with them. It was just to show that NR contributions are a substantial amount of money, but the world isn't going to completely collapse without them.

 

[BuckSmasher]

Nope. It's being tired of constant threads and comments from guys acting like they are entitled to tags in states they dont live on or contribute too.

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I want more nonresident opportunity not less.

Entitled? (believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.) I haven't seen that. Concern that they won't be able to participate in something they love, sure

I have zero problems with non-res coming into Idaho to hunt. I just want to make sure that us Idahoan's make the best possible decisions in regards to habitat management etc so that they still can.

BTW: Don't forget whose land you are hunting on your high horse over there in WY.

 

[Ridge Runner 76]

People should be Thankful for what they do.

I have friends across the country/world. Each with unique opportunities.

My buddy in TX, has access to year round hunting on multiple animals.

Buddy in PA, over 8 months of hunting opportunities.

Associate in South Africa, owns a huge ranch. Opportunities are endless.

I'm a CO guy/native and I'm Thankful for my 5 to 9 days chasing Mulies and Elk since I'm not an archery guy.

Fact is,hunting ang killing 10-15 animals across the cpuntry/world isn't exactly a tight. Be Thankful for the opportunities when they align. Don't devalue your default opportunities because your home is xyz.

 

[Jimmy]

 

[Chrisamx]

Get rid of the Ponzi, I mean get rid of the points systems.

 

[grfox92]

I want more nonresident opportunity not less.

Entitled? (believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.) I haven't seen that. Concern that they won't be able to participate in something they love, sure

I have zero problems with non-res coming into Idaho to hunt. I just want to make sure that us Idahoan's make the best possible decisions in regards to habitat management etc so that they still can.

BTW: Don't forget whose land you are hunting on your high horse over there in WY.

If your not the type of person I'm describing then I'm not sure why your acting so offended. To say that you haven't seen entitled attitudes from non residents acting like the difficulty of drawing tags isn't a massive injustice bestowed upon them means that you haven't spent much time on this forum.

I too welcome non residents and help guys in person and on this forum. I bet there are over a dozen guys on this forum alone that could chime in and tell you that I've helped them on their out of state hunt.

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[BuckSmasher]

If your not the type of person I'm describing then I'm not sure why your acting so offended. To say that you haven't seen entitled attitudes from non residents acting like the difficulty of drawing tags isn't a massive injustice bestowed upon them means that you haven't spent much time on this forum.

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I'm not sure if I am the type of guy you are describing or not. I definitely wish good non-resident tags were easier to get, like they were in what seems like my recent memory 15 years ago. Either way, not offended. I started this thread to entertain myself, and that is why I am posting in it. This is a public discussion forum.

Not sure how any clear eyed reading of your posts on this thread could lead to any other conclusion other than any non-resident concern about tag availability is invalid, and they should be happy with what or if they get a tag.