Brainstorm Solutions for the Western "Tag Crisis"

[RyanT26]

Let us all know when you tell your kids, relatives, and friends to stay home.

You can dislike the message all you want, it doesn’t change the fact that it’s correct. Is getting tags easier now compared to 10 years ago….No. Remember decent left over Wyoming antelope buck tags. Those days were pretty cool. How about Wyoming general tag every other year. Those are once every 5-10 years now, and you may never catch back up due to the point creep. Could truly be once in life time.

The “tag crisis” is due to the promotion of western hunting and the manufactured crisis that hunting is a dying hobby over the last 10-15 years.

 

[Mcribs]

Obviously you have no idea what you're talking about.

Actually very familiar with 33% draw odds for resident “easy” to draw deer units in CO. I know that NRs get a significant amount of draw tags and scoop up landowner tags at 2k a pop, no questions asked. So the $ value of the market is 2k. That’s the price CPW should charge. It makes zero sense that the cost of a tag is significantly lower than that. It’s not like people can’t hunt their own states. Unless you like in CO and NM and you can’t.

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Let us all know when you tell your kids, relatives, and friends to stay home.

Hunting was just fine when current hunters brought in their kids, relatives and friends, when it went downhill was when the industry made up a stat about hunter numbers dwindling and needing people to recruit more hunters at all costs.


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[Pacific_Fork]

Let us all know when you tell your kids, relatives, and friends to stay home.

I have to believe you’re not seriously comparing that to what R3 truly is. You do know what R3 is and the levels that companies and non profits go to recruit more consumers/spenders right?

 

[wapitibob]

You can dislike the message all out want it doesn’t change the fact that it’s correct. Is getting tags easier now compared to 10 years ago….No. Remember decent left over Wyoming antelope buck tags. Those days were pretty cool. How about Wyoming general tag every year or at worst every other.

The “tag crisis” is due to the promotion of western hunting and the manufactured crisis that hunting is a dying hobby over the last 10-15 years.

You didn't answer the question; if you believe we don't need new hunters, did you tell your family and friends to stay home or do they get a special exemption ?

 

[Maverick1]

 

[UpNorth89]

Actually very familiar with 33% draw odds for resident “easy” to draw deer units in CO. I know that NRs get a significant amount of draw tags and scoop up landowner tags at 2k a pop, no questions asked. So the $ value of the market is 2k. That’s the price CPW should charge. It makes zero sense that the cost of a tag is significantly lower than that. It’s not like people can’t hunt their own states. Unless you like in CO and NM and you can’t.

Residents also buy up expensive landowner tags. Maybe resident tags should go for thousands too.

 

[RockAndSage]

Squabbling over dwindling supply is a loser game. We all need to think bigger and expand supply.

#TerraformNevada
#MakeTheGreatBasin1000LakesAgain

 

[Coopsdaddy]

Every time you turn on the tv all you see is news about everyone being broke.
I call bullshit because every time a decent vehicle or home goes up for sale it’s gone quick.Everyone paying too doller for gear and for the these hunts.
When will it end if ever,will it ever be affordable again.
I don’t know a single person that can go or would go on a 20000 moose hunt or 10000 elk hunt.
Cant get tags because of all the bs and point creep.
Interesting to see were we are in 5 years/10 years.

 

[Steve300xcw]

I call bullshit because every time a decent vehicle or home goes up for sale it’s gone quick.Everyone paying too doller for gear and for the these hunts.

I have been amazed by how many people live on Credit cards and borrowed money, one short work week away from it all coming down on them.

 

[The_Jim]

I find it interesting that the only value guys find in the west is being able to take a dead animal home. I try to hunt out of state every season, but if I don't get a tag my home state provides more opportunity than I have time.

If you don't get a tag you can still enjoy the west. Go camping, fishing, backpacking, off-roading, etc.

 

[wind gypsy]

Actually very familiar with 33% draw odds for resident “easy” to draw deer units in CO. I know that NRs get a significant amount of draw tags and scoop up landowner tags at 2k a pop, no questions asked. So the $ value of the market is 2k. That’s the price CPW should charge. It makes zero sense that the cost of a tag is significantly lower than that. It’s not like people can’t hunt their own states. Unless you like in CO and NM and you can’t.

Colorado has historically been pretty generous to non-residents, it's true. They have been peeling the NR tag allocation back though.

The idea that because a landowner tag brings X market value that every draw tag should be priced at that is a bit absurd though. A landowner tag is worth X because it doesn't have to be drawn, it doesn't require years of waiting or planning.. The large part of the reason that a NR is likely to pay more for a land owner tag than a resident is because it's harder for NR to get a tag in the first place.

 

[wind gypsy]

New Mexico NR tags are a fraction of the going rate of landowner tags. Landowner gets $5-10k, but the state only gets <$1k. NM residents can’t afford landowner tags so they all go out of state. That is selling our wildlife for a fraction of their worth and letting landowners pocket the rest.

Whether you like NM quotas is a different conversation.

So should every NR tag should basically be auctioned for top $? Go that way and you'll only have more bigger $ interest non-residents to compete with.