Barrel nut vs shouldered - What say you?

Schmo

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Possibly going to be ordering another barrel before long. It’d be a 223 barrel for my Tikka. Either a Criterion barrel nut prefit, or PBB shouldered. Does a properly torqued barrel nut setup suffer from POI shift if gun is dropped? Is shouldered the only way to go?
 

mrolen

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Go with a shouldered on a tikka. action to action measurements are very close and it will look cleaner. Only time I’m in favor of a barrel nut is when action tolerance is known to very any you need the adjustment to get proper headspace.

I’m pretty sure if you dropped a gun hard enough to adjust the POI from the barrel nut/ tenon your going to have bigger problems with the rifle.
 

TaperPin

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At 100 ft lbs of torque it’s solid enough to not matter with either style if dropped. As mrolen said, shouldered looks cleaner.

A Benchrest guy over on Accurate shooter had a very accurate shouldered barrel and it was shot as is, then the shoulder was machined down for a nut and the barrel shot exactly the same.

I’ve never liked the look of a nut, but forced myself to get one just to say I did and now I don’t mind them at all. For Tikka I’d just get a shouldered barrel, but for Remingtons a nut can save a few hundred dollars over having a short chambered or long shouldered prefit installed by a gunsmith.

A nut and specialized nut socket isn’t free if purchased separately, so be sure and add that in.
 

wind gypsy

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Only reason i've never owned a barrel nut prefit is because the ones that typically offer the price advantage come with more limited contour, chamber, or twist options or a longer lead time that limited my interest. If the exact option i wanted was $100+ cheaper with a nut included I'd not hesitate.
 

Hydra6

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I have some very nice older actions (Stiller and Defiance) that shouldered prefits are not available - I am using barrel nut barrels for them. I use shouldered prefits for Tikka.
 

waspocrew

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I’ve done both - definitely prefer the shouldered for clean looks and ease of install. If you don’t really have a specific contour in mind, barrel nut is cheaper and not much more difficult to use at all. I guess it just depends on what you’re after.
 

SloppyJ

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I've owned multiples of both. Personally I'll almost always pay the difference for a shouldered barrel. It's so much easier to install.

On my Excalibur 6 creed barrel with a barrel nut, I used a healthy dose of red locktite. The idea was to essentially make it a shouldered barrel by locking it into place. It worked but still a bigger PITA.

One thing to consider is that you'll need at least one extra tool for the barrel nut so that price difference shrinks a bit. On top of that you'll need at least a go gauge as well. You should have it for both but honestly I've yet to have a shouldered barrel that wasn't machined correctly.

If you're not planning on swapping it, the barrel nut is fine. Not sure if they sell tikka stuff but I bought a criterion match barrel from NSS that was shouldered. Shoots great on my PRS rig. Have fun building your first rifle. It's quite addicting.
 

gbflyer

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Isn’t this the place that promotes that beat - up ugly-assed Rokstok with a “dead cat” barrel channel with the Hubble Space Telescope fastened to a train track on top, having dropped it 9 times in the dirt from 36”? Don’t worry about the looks of the barrel nut. It’s all about function.
 
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