Axis 5mm vs RIP TKO (should I go lighter TAW?)

[Netherman]

Running low on axis 5mm and debating a lighter arrow for better trajectory. The tinkerer in me is always looking for a better mousetrap while the cheapskate doesn’t want to trash my last 8 arrows.

Math says my 525g arrow is shooting 270. If I switch to the lighter GPI TKO I’d be 475 and 285 with the same components or 290 if I wanted to switch to 100g broadheads.

If TKOs end up the direction is there a consensus on their new half out? I know most people didn’t like the previous generation but would save $2 an arrow vs buying HITs.

Bow:
Rx5 ultra 334 IBO 29” 70lb

Arrow:
Axis 5mm 28”, 50g HIT, 125 broadhead, wrap, 4 fletch, lighted nock.

 

[ResearchinStuff]

If you're going with rips, drop the weight way down. My specs are basically the same as yours, my rip build is 436gr, and realistically if it was 25-50 gr lighter there would be no drawbacks. I've pushed 2" mechs through multiple bulls at 436 gr

 

[Jfarrell13]

Rips all day. You’ll be happy with a lighter setup I would say

 

[Trial153]

Functionally except on your sight tape I don't think you're gonna see much difference, of the two I like the rip build way better .

 

[butcherboy]

I’m a big axis and fmj fan so I would stick with the axis. Drop the wrap, lighted nock, and 4 fletch. Stay with a 50 grain hit but drop the broadhead to a 100 grain. Maybe cut another 1/2” off the front. I shoot a 340 fmj cut to 27” 50 grain hit, 100 grain broadhead, regular nock, 3 blazer vanes and the taw is 482 grains. Fmj’s are 11.3 grains/inch while an axis 340 is 9.5.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

Axis will be substantially tougher but TKOs are tough enough. Whatever you do, don't swap to a half out system, stay with HITs.

 

[TheTone]

You could lose quite a bit of weight on your current axis with a 3 fletch, standard nock and no wrap. Could also play with insert and broadhead weight

 

[blackveltbowhunter]

For the weight TKO is the toughest arrow made. IME the jury is out on the durability between the 2.

Getting the Axis to 480 TAW is not an issue. But you would need to alter your build specs significantly, if you feel like tinkering the TKO will do it easily and if you alter the build specs of both you can go deep down the rabbit hole.

The HIT is the gold standard if using a collar. If your getting 2 dollar stainless or TI collars please share with the rest of us. If your not using a collar, the stainless insert included in the TKO is very solid.

 

[Insomnia]

HIT with rip tkos. Collars are nice, but not necessary. Ran Black Eagle rampages without collars for a long time, I would locktite the heads to hit inserts and hot melt them in as glue-in heads. TAW with 125 grain heads and standard hits at 28" arrows was 416 grains.

 

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

For the weight TKO is the toughest arrow made. IME the jury is out on the durability between the 2.

Getting the Axis to 480 TAW is not an issue. But you would need to alter your build specs significantly, if you feel like tinkering the TKO will do it easily and if you alter the build specs of both you can go deep down the rabbit hole.

The HIT is the gold standard if using a collar. If your getting 2 dollar stainless or TI collars please share with the rest of us. If your not using a collar, the stainless insert included in the TKO is very solid.

The jury is absolutely not out, Axis is way more durable. I've been shooting axis for close to 2 decades and the rips since 2020(when they were released I think), axis beats them every time for durability. That being said, I primarily use the TKOs because they are plenty durable.

 

[CodeMonkey]

Either set up will kill whatever you want in NA

 

[5MilesBack]

The jury is absolutely not out, Axis is way more durable. I've been shooting axis for close to 2 decades and the rips since 2020(when they were released I think), axis beats them every time for durability. That being said, I primarily use the TKOs because they are plenty durable.

I've had the complete opposite results. I've broken many Axis arrows over the years but have yet to break, or even damage a single RIP TKO over the last 6 years.