Aron Snyder leaving Kifaru

[fngTony]

LoL must be a WV thing then.
But I still use gray sneakers occasionally for work

In your neighboring state my step dad still wears jorts but with sandals. He will pair that with a straw hat when it’s sunny.

 

[Steve O]

Sad to see him go. He did a lot for kifaru. I remember the days of kifaru before Aron. It was like a secret club. Hardly anyone had no one knew about them. He really exploded Kifaru to the world. I love kifaru packs. Been running them since the early days when they first started. and I will
Continue to run them.

Black was beautiful…

 

[Lawnboi]

Black was beautiful…

I think I’d buy another OG timberline.

 

[realunlucky]

you know, now that you mention it, maybe it was Sam

Never be afraid to be comfortable!

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[MuleyFever]

For the OGs.

Snyder on his way over to Born Primitive.

 

[Jake Larsen]

For the OGs.

Snyder on his way over to Born Primitive.

Techno Viking! Haven’t seen him in a hot minute


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[Billy Goat]

Better late than never.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I think I’d buy another OG timberline.

I’d buy an argali.

 

[Lawnboi]

I’d buy an argali.

Integral frame argali and id be in.

 

[MountainTracker]

Better late than never.

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Oh man don’t make me breakout the AI photo generator for some epic jorts backpacking memes


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[Billy Goat]

Oh man don’t make me breakout the AI photo generator for some epic jorts backpacking memes


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[Maverick1]

I think I’d buy another OG timberline.

I'm still using a duplex timberline 2. Really like the layout. Only Kifaru bag I've ever owned.

 

[MountainTracker]

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[MountainTracker]

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[tony]

In your neighboring state my step dad still wears jorts but with sandals. He will pair that with a straw hat when it’s sunny.

A true man!

 

[Elmer J. Fudd]

i thought this had to be a joke. but nope. there they are right there on the website.... BTW, there is never an acceptable time to wear jean shorts. EVER.

BIG 10 Country has entered the chat

 

[robcollins]

i thought this had to be a joke. but nope. there they are right there on the website.... BTW, there is never an acceptable time to wear jean shorts. EVER.

Wrong.

1970s, and forever if you're Farah Faucet or Daisy Duke.

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[robcollins]

Not to argue, and whatever works for you, but when I was in the Army, my first duty station was Fort Drum, NY. I was in a light infantry unit, and we did a lot cold weather training and field time. I was taught as part of the cold weather training to get in your sleeping back in only your skivvies, or at most just your base layers. The idea being, if you climb into a well insulated sleeping bag fulling clothed, or clothed in insulating layers, it increases the chances of you sweating, which then can actually be really dangerous in extremely cold weather. We spent a lot of nights in the field in -20 to -30 temps, and I followed that advice and it seemed to work. I remember a new LT that didnt heed that advice and about died of hypothermia, in his sleeping bag, full polypros, insulating layers, full gore-tex, etc.

", but" kinda contradicts "Not to argue", and clearly, my stuff works for me,

Share your insta, I'd love to review your DD214, because clearly, I've never podcasted, so therefore have never "survived" a winter night outside.

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[robcollins]

Sorry, tangent to the original thread here....
I ran a version of that experiment when I was on active duty 20+ years ago sleeping out at Ft. Greely at -30 something (ambient) directly on the snow in a bivy bag.

I used a Wiggy's 2 part sleep system rated to -40F, along with the army goretex bivy bag and issue thin thermarest.
First night, wore all my clothes, and had my fleece jacket tucket in my bag on my right side. I woke up with my right arm freezing! This is before we were issued proper puffy layers, we just had polypro underwear and Polartech 300wt bibs and jacket. The rolled up fleece seemed to compress the synthetic insulation of bag and not insulate nearly as well as the bag alone.

Over the next week I wore silkweights, T-shirt and skivies, and up to the thicker polypro (not the current gridded style).

My take-away was that the skivvies thing was kinda nuts. It was warmer with some insulation, but not thick fleece. That just compressed the good puffy insulation of the sleeping bag. Especially if the bag was too restrictive (which my Wiggy's was somewhat, the issue sleep system was cut much more generously).

In the years since, I've slept better using much lighter sleeping bags (+20F) down to about -20F successfully by learning from climbers and PJs....wear your puffy pants and parka to bed. It makes a huge difference. Also hot nalgene bottles, fresh "sleep" socks, down booties, 2 pad system, all really help. Just don't compress the insulation.

But I still hear that skivies only advice from soldiers, who generally don't sleep out in the cold much. And usually only do with heated squad tents.

My opinion is that Goretex is good for stopping wind, and external moisture if the DWR on the face fabric is good.

Frost inside the bivy means it isn't breathing and is keeping the moisture in... No biggie at 30F. -30F is box stove weather in the morning for me, or, SD road hunting pheasant and grouse, and the shotgun might need to have the barrel pulled and ride the defrost in between batches of birds.

Fur hat or wind cheater with a ruff sure is nice on those nights. Dry socks, high R pad. Adding puffy synthetic is exactly what a slick bag is.

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[Huntindog45]

Wrong.

1970s, and forever if you're Farah Faucet or Daisy Duke.

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Okay let me be more specific… there is never a scenario where a dude should wear Jean shorts


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