Argument against small caliber? Blood trail/exit wounds?

[fatlander]

Not an apples to apples comparison/generalization...I'd be much more inclined to shoot a smaller cartridge with a good bullet in open country than use a mechanical broadhead.

In my experience long sharp two blades give superior penetration to mechanicals, especially at lower velocity with a recurve.

A mechanical for a recurve would be like someone talking about shooting big game with a rimfire rifle.

That’s not what I was referencing in my comparison nor what’s being discussed in this thread, but I think you probably knew that anyway?


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[North of 60]

My point was just be careful with generalizations that don't apply from firearms to archery...i disagree with your generalization that mechanicals are superior to COC broadheads.

I do agree that hitting them in the boiler room is wise for any choice of weapon

 

[fatlander]

My point was just be careful with generalizations that don't apply from firearms to archery...i disagree with your generalization that mechanicals are superior to COC broadheads.

I do agree that hitting them in the boiler room is wise for any choice of weapon

Mechanicals are inherently more accurate, with and without the human behind the bow; the human element skews accuracy further in favor of mechanicals. There’s no real debate there.

I don’t disagree there are applications where small coc broadheads are necessary like traditional archery. For the vast majority of grown men, shooting modern compound bows, mechanicals are the way to go.


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[Whitefox82]

For the same reason I shoot solid one piece broadheads I shoot a bonded or mono metal bullet for large big game like elk. I believe 2 holes are better than 1. And as long as you do your part with the placement, you usually watch them die. Plus the advantages of less meat damage to the shoulder area and being able to attack the crest cavity from an angle and through heavy bone or tissue to get there.

 

[Whitefox82]

IMO, shooting a modern compound bow should have nothing to do with whether you can use mechanical broadheads. You need to be pulling back enough weight to get the velocity and energy to force an expandable entirely through an animal. ( Of course you don’t need a pass through to kill but I do believe an exit is important in bow hunting for tracking) Most guys probably aren’t pulling enough weight with their choice of expandable and should switch to coc or to a smaller expandable. I’ve seen WAY to many instances of TERRIBLE penetration with guys shooting expandables, especially when they contact the shoulder.

 

[North of 60]

IMO, shooting a modern compound bow should have nothing to do with whether you can use mechanical broadheads. You need to be pulling back enough weight to get the velocity and energy to force an expandable entirely through an animal. ( Of course you don’t need a pass through to kill but I do believe an exit is important in bow hunting for tracking) Most guys probably aren’t pulling enough weight with their choice of expandable and should switch to coc or to a smaller expandable. I’ve seen WAY to many instances of TERRIBLE penetration with guys shooting expandables, especially when they contact the shoulder.

Exactly why i don't use mechanicals...the simple reason that coc will penetrate better nearly always and critters can easily move upon the release of a bow and lead to a less than better shot needing a coc broadhead to more likely be successful compared to the velocity of a firearm.

And we may want to go back to the discussion of bullets to not derail this thread

 

[majg1234]

The placement of the bullet is the most important part of the puzzle.
I've had bang flops,knock down and run,just plain old runaways,some amazing blood trails (350Rem mag heart lung, shot with lung tissue for about 60yrds) and then again no blood trails with a bunch of calibers.243 through 45-70 even the mighty 375H&H
The bottem line is NOTHING will always give a good blood trail,tracking skills involve more than following a red line in the dirt,leaves,pine needles , rocks and so forth.