Are we headed for another 2008?

[BuzzH]

imposing their beliefs on others is the liberal ideal.....going on all across the land.

Seems it's a flaw not limited to liberals, it's universal across the board...if only obviously.

 

[WeiserBucks]

Can we get back to the original discussion and let everyone else battle it out in their own abortion thread? Surprised this thread hasn't been nuked yet.

 

[BuzzH]

^ actually, murder is the ultimate imposition of someone's will onto another human.

Except that it's not murder.

 

[bsnedeker]

You don't know what my beliefs are...speak for yourself and I will do the same.

And you should allow others to do the same as well. Neither you nor I have a right to impose our will on others. It's fundamentally wrong on all kinds of levels.

Really? We don't have the right to legislate our beliefs?

Have you ever heard of slavery? Lots of peopled BELIEVED in slavery...thought it was a great thing. For thousands of years this was the "belief" of people.

Guess how we got rid of it....through legislation! OH MY GOODNESS! HOW IMMORAL OF THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPOSE IT'S BELIEFS ON EVERYONE!!

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[CoStick]

Guess you'd need to go do some research on all the different possible reasons. My simple guess is with the 3 couples I know that adopted it took between 20 months and up to almost 36 months to get all the money they needed saved and then get approved to adopt. The latest couple I know got approved for adoption on a Thursday, and brought their son home that Saturday. So if it wasn't so expensive and time consuming, maybe the foster homes would be empty.

Kids are expensive, no doubt about it.

 

[zion zig zag]

Really? We don't have the right to legislate our beliefs?

Have you ever heard of slavery? Lots of peopled BELIEVED in slavery...thought it was a great thing. For thousands of years this was the "belief" of people.

Guess how we got rid of it....through legislation! OH MY GOODNESS! HOW IMMORAL OF THE GOVERNMENT TO IMPOSE IT'S BELIEFS ON EVERYONE!!

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Arguments like this are offensive to people who possess logic.

 

[Andrew12gauge]

Except that it's not murder.

What do you call it when one individual intentionally kills another?

Now, since you’ve decided that it isn’t an actual living and breathing human being(it is) why is it that you can be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman?


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[CoStick]

What do you call it when one individual intentionally kills another?

Now, since you’ve decided that it isn’t an actual living and breathing human being(it is) why is it that you can be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman?


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What would it be if a person miscarriages? Manslaughter depending on lifestyle, if they have a high risk situation and try anyway? Once you make it “criminal “ the impacts will be large. Insurance needed and investigation into loss of a fetus. Will be interesting….

 

[Ten Bears]

Another thread derailed by Buzz. Instead of talking about a looming recession and skyrocketing inflation this has turned into an abortion discussion.

And that is why the opinion leaked during the ramp up for mid terms, get people talking about something else.

 

[BuzzH]

What do you call it when one individual intentionally kills another?

Now, since you’ve decided that it isn’t an actual living and breathing human being(it is) why is it that you can be charged with double murder for killing a pregnant woman?


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What law or statute makes it murder...thanks in advance while I wait for you to find it.

 

[CoStick]

Another thread derailed by Buzz. Instead of talking about a looming recession and skyrocketing inflation this has turned into an abortion discussion.

And that is why the opinion leaked during the ramp up for mid terms, get people talking about something else.

Be interesting to see which party affiliation leaked it.

 

[MuleyFever]

I can just see all the minds being changed by this discussion.

 

[BuzzH]

Another thread derailed by Buzz. Instead of talking about a looming recession and skyrocketing inflation this has turned into an abortion discussion.

And that is why the opinion leaked during the ramp up for mid terms, get people talking about something else.

You don't think adding millions of people to the US population is relevant to a discussion of recession, inflation, resource scarcity, tax implications, social programs and economic impacts?

I guess we will agree to disagree on that.

 

[Newtosavage]

What law or statute makes it murder...thanks in advance while I wait for you to find it.

Better question - if the woman has an appointment for PP to abort the child, do they now owe the person who murdered the mom or does he owe them or both? (sorry, not funny but kinda funny).

 

[Ten Bears]

You don't think adding millions of people to the US population is relevant to a discussion of recession, inflation, resource scarcity, tax implications, social programs and economic impacts?

I guess we will agree to disagree on that.

Don't worry Buzz, people will still be able to have abortions. It just might be a little effort in some places if this actually happens. In the meantime, abstinence, protection, birth control, and the day after pill are still viable options. All of this you know.

I like how during Covid you argued that people should just deal with options being forced on them by the Government due to the risk of loss of life. Now that it's something you don't agree with this "potential" ruling kicking the choice to the states you are upset. Do the unborn who are facing certain death from abortion deserve the same consideration that someone facing a 99% survival rate from Covid ? Does society carry this burden of economic strife from the Covid decisions as you propose modifying RVW would "perhaps" do ?

You are being dramatic and making up a scenario that millions of unwanted babies will be cast upon society. This again "potential" ruling simply allows states to decide. That is it. If you are as smart as you tell everyone you are, you already know this. You are just derailing a thread and being a troll.

PS, I am pro choice. outside of late term abortion.

Have a good one

 

[BuzzH]

Don't worry Buzz, people will still be able to have abortions. It just might be a little effort in some places if this actually happens. In the meantime, abstinence, protection, birth control, and the day after pill are still viable options. All of this you know.

I like how during Covid you argued that people should just deal with options being forced on them by the Government due to the risk of loss of life. Now that it's something you don't agree with this "potential" ruling kicking the choice to the states you are upset. Do the unborn who are facing certain death from abortion deserve the same consideration that someone facing a 99% survival rate from Covid ? Does society carry this burden of economic strife from the Covid decisions as you propose modifying RVW would "perhaps" do ?

You are being dramatic and making up a scenario that millions of unwanted babies will be cast upon society. This again "potential" ruling simply allows states to decide. That is it. If you are as smart as you tell everyone you are, you already know this. You are just derailing a thread and being a troll.

PS, I am pro choice. outside of late term abortion.

Have a good one

You are sadly mistaken, I'm upset about nothing.

What you have a problem with is the reality of what these decisions cause, that's a YOU problem, and yes you will be paying that price, socially, economically, etc.

We all will, just don't whine about it when you're held accountable for picking up the tab, because you absolutely will be. I'm probably in a small minority of people who have no issue paying taxes, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Have a better one.

 

[Ten Bears]

You are sadly mistaken, I'm upset about nothing.

What you have a problem with is the reality of what these decisions cause, that's a YOU problem, and yes you will be paying that price, socially, economically, etc.

We all will, just don't whine about it when you're held accountable for picking up the tab, because you absolutely will be. I'm probably in a small minority of people who have no issue paying taxes, doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Have a better one.

It’s funny watching you eat your words.

 

[BuzzH]

It’s funny watching you eat your words.

Just keep paying those taxes, everything will be fine.

 

[ewade07]

I dont know about y'all, but im patiently waiting to swoop up some steals on things as soon as all these people who over leveredged themselves start shedding things they cant afford to keep or need the money for essentials.

 

[S.Clancy]

I dont know about y'all, but im patiently waiting to swoop up some steals on things as soon as all these people who over leveredged themselves start shedding things they cant afford to keep or need the money for essentials.

Ditto. I'd fancy a motorbike