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The bastid lives in Arizona. It says in the desert so I assume down south. I won’t claim him as one of us. Where’s he originally from?Oh, I bet he's more than mildly surprised to see his name in print right now.
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The bastid lives in Arizona. It says in the desert so I assume down south. I won’t claim him as one of us. Where’s he originally from?Oh, I bet he's more than mildly surprised to see his name in print right now.
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Von Benedikt grew up on a self-sustaining farm in Boulder, UtahThe bastid lives in Arizona. It says in the desert so I assume down south. I won’t claim him as one of us. Where’s he originally from?
@mtnwrunner , I just meant your comment was quite clever and cutting in a hilarious way.
Oh, I know. This whole thread is vicious!
Randy
Man that one went off the rails in a hurryLike a deer’s going to be within a 1/4 mile of you after you choke on your Little Debbie while laughing at these memes…
It would be better for most outdoors writers to walk away from this one and say nothing. Ron is too close to the situation and could get backlash if he isn't careful.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
22 hours ago
Folks, to clarify some of the most recent comments here: apparently a woman hunter and her husband have accused Aram of tracking down and shooting a buck she'd previously wounded. I do not know exactly what happened. I wasn't there. From what I can tell it's a "she said/he said" situation. Based on that, I don't feel it's fair nor accurate to condemn Aram, call him a thief, etc. These reactions seem to be part of our current "cancel culture." It is easy to jump on the bandwagon and call out the accused, but jurisprudence in American used to hold that one is innocent until proven guilty. I should like to get back to that standard. This isn't to say the woman leveling accusations at Aram is a liar. Nor is it to say Aram is a devil or angel. It's just a reminder that it is all too easy to besmirch someone on social media, to confuse facts, to misinterpret actions and intent, etc. And that can have devastating, costly repercussions, financial as well as psychological and spiritual. Let us hope that those involved in this imbroglio can resolve it amicably and then share their story. Until then, the rest of us might withhold judgement.
But he forgot to mention the Memes....
Except it’s not a “he said, she said” situation.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
22 hours ago
Folks, to clarify some of the most recent comments here: apparently a woman hunter and her husband have accused Aram of tracking down and shooting a buck she'd previously wounded. I do not know exactly what happened. I wasn't there. From what I can tell it's a "she said/he said" situation. Based on that, I don't feel it's fair nor accurate to condemn Aram, call him a thief, etc. These reactions seem to be part of our current "cancel culture." It is easy to jump on the bandwagon and call out the accused, but jurisprudence in American used to hold that one is innocent until proven guilty. I should like to get back to that standard. This isn't to say the woman leveling accusations at Aram is a liar. Nor is it to say Aram is a devil or angel. It's just a reminder that it is all too easy to besmirch someone on social media, to confuse facts, to misinterpret actions and intent, etc. And that can have devastating, costly repercussions, financial as well as psychological and spiritual. Let us hope that those involved in this imbroglio can resolve it amicably and then share their story. Until then, the rest of us might withhold judgement.
But he forgot to mention the Memes....
But we kinda do know...cause we all know that type person from some point in our life.All in the spirit of humor.
That being said, I've reserved comment/opinions on this because I wasn't there. And neither was anyone else except those that few that were involved.
As we all know, there are always two sides to a story and it usually falls in the middle, or at least to one side or the other.
I spent a long career in law enforcement and I would read shit the press would report and OMG, it wasn't even close to what occurred being I was present.
So......unless you were there and saw what happened, you don't know.
And I'm sure we have not heard everything but the fact that Outdoor Life made their statement means something.
Carry on.
Randy
I quit drinking bout once a week. This morning feels like a good time to quit again.I quit drinking 4.5 years ago.
I'm picturing Troy shoving Liz-buth into the crock infested water and chooot her BOAL
This was meant in jest… hope you kill one. Maybe the deer will think the laughing is a snort-wheeze and come in.Man that one went off the rails in a hurry
Agreed, Ron should have stayed out of the fray. Dont play w fire if you arent willing to get burned.It would be better for most outdoors writers to walk away from this one and say nothing. Ron is too close to the situation and could get backlash if he isn't careful.
Jay
Haha I totally understood that. Was talking about the desert sheep threadThis was meant in jest… hope you kill one. Maybe the deer will think the laughing is a snort-wheeze and come in.
Hey Ron, he gave his account and that’s why I think he’s a grade a douche bag.
@RonSpomerOutdoors
22 hours ago
Folks, to clarify some of the most recent comments here: apparently a woman hunter and her husband have accused Aram of tracking down and shooting a buck she'd previously wounded. I do not know exactly what happened. I wasn't there. From what I can tell it's a "she said/he said" situation. Based on that, I don't feel it's fair nor accurate to condemn Aram, call him a thief, etc. These reactions seem to be part of our current "cancel culture." It is easy to jump on the bandwagon and call out the accused, but jurisprudence in American used to hold that one is innocent until proven guilty. I should like to get back to that standard. This isn't to say the woman leveling accusations at Aram is a liar. Nor is it to say Aram is a devil or angel. It's just a reminder that it is all too easy to besmirch someone on social media, to confuse facts, to misinterpret actions and intent, etc. And that can have devastating, costly repercussions, financial as well as psychological and spiritual. Let us hope that those involved in this imbroglio can resolve it amicably and then share their story. Until then, the rest of us might withhold judgement.
But he forgot to mention the Memes....
I liked Ron til I had to Google "imbroglio". Naah the whole post stunkIt would be better for most outdoors writers to walk away from this one and say nothing. Ron is too close to the situation and could get backlash if he isn't careful.
Jay