Anyone paying attention to Michigan?

[dr.mooseknuckles]

This thread is making me laugh so hard!

The presence of antlers doesn't add inches to your dick. Shoot more does. Antler point restrictions are dumb in that there are plenty of mature bucks with weak genetics that don't meet the APR criteria to be harvested, thus they get to continue breeding.

One buck rule, in general, would make folks (read seasoned adults) be more selective. That's how Kentucky does it, and many people travel there to hunt. Again, antlers are hard to cook, and don't add inches to your pecker. Let them get bigger and thin the doe herd out. If you really want to get super strict, minimum main beam length restrictions and/or inside spread limit. SOAs in AL are 18 inch main beam length, and/or 16 inch inside spread.

Anecdotal for sure, but on our family 1k acre property in AL, one buck rule per member, unless confronted with the rare situation of seeing a bigger buck than the first killed. No doe limits. We are seeing much better quality with our bucks, as well as an increase in number of mature bucks seen on camera. Our doe body weights have also gone up, which will help contribute to better buck genetics in the long term (50% of genetics come from the doe, dontcha know). We'll probably never get our ratio ideal. Three mature bucks and ten does this season

 

[Steve O]

This thread is making me laugh so hard!

The presence of antlers doesn't add inches to your dick. Shoot more does. Antler point restrictions are dumb in that there are plenty of mature bucks with weak genetics that don't meet the APR criteria to be harvested, thus they get to continue breeding.

One buck rule, in general, would make folks (read seasoned adults) be more selective. That's how Kentucky does it, and many people travel there to hunt. Again, antlers are hard to cook, and don't add inches to your pecker. Let them get bigger and thin the doe herd out. If you really want to get super strict, minimum main beam length restrictions and/or inside spread limit. SOAs in AL are 18 inch main beam length, and/or 16 inch inside spread.

Anecdotal for sure, but on our family 1k acre property in AL, one buck rule per member, unless confronted with the rare situation of seeing a bigger buck than the first killed. No doe limits. We are seeing much better quality with our bucks, as well as an increase in number of mature bucks seen on camera. Our doe body weights have also gone up, which will help contribute to better buck genetics in the long term (50% of genetics come from the doe, dontcha know). We'll probably never get our ratio ideal. Three mature bucks and ten does this season

There is 1/3 of the lower peninsula that needs the does thinned. That is where all the private land is. The rest of the state is a tinkle of what it once was. The big buck hunters pushing thier agenda are the ones in that private sector. They hunt in a nirvana, off limits to the rest of the low lifes that eke out our existence hunting the public. Their herd reduction plans work incredibly well where the public takes great advantage of them but not so well on the private land where only they are responsible for controlling the deer population on. A big pile of hypocrisy is what I see from them…

 

[Todd10]

This thread is making me laugh so hard!

The presence of antlers doesn't add inches to your dick. Shoot more does. Antler point restrictions are dumb in that there are plenty of mature bucks with weak genetics that don't meet the APR criteria to be harvested, thus they get to continue breeding.

One buck rule, in general, would make folks (read seasoned adults) be more selective. That's how Kentucky does it, and many people travel there to hunt. Again, antlers are hard to cook, and don't add inches to your pecker. Let them get bigger and thin the doe herd out. If you really want to get super strict, minimum main beam length restrictions and/or inside spread limit. SOAs in AL are 18 inch main beam length, and/or 16 inch inside spread.

Anecdotal for sure, but on our family 1k acre property in AL, one buck rule per member, unless confronted with the rare situation of seeing a bigger buck than the first killed. No doe limits. We are seeing much better quality with our bucks, as well as an increase in number of mature bucks seen on camera. Our doe body weights have also gone up, which will help contribute to better buck genetics in the long term (50% of genetics come from the doe, dontcha know). We'll probably never get our ratio ideal. Three mature bucks and ten does this season

Anecdotal for sure, but on our family 1k acre property in AL, one buck rule per member, UNLESS confronted with the rare situation of seeing a bigger buck than the first killed.

Sounds like the current 2 buck rule in Michigan where only 3-7% of hunters shoot a second buck. A lot of hunters would love to harvest more doe if they could only access the private property they live on. I do agree with you though that a lot of hunters are mainly interested in antlers unfortunately.

 

[SirChooCH]

I didn't scroll thu nine pages to see if this is posted:

Ep. 1033: The Case for a One Buck Rule with Brent Rudolph | MeatEater Podcasts

This week on the show Mark is discussing the case for a one buck limit (currently proposed in Michigan), and joining him is Brent Rudolph, the deer, elk, and moose specialist for the Michigan Department of Natural Resources. Connect with Mark Kenyon, Jake Hofer, and MeatEater Mark Kenyon on...

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This was a good listen. Always want to hear from our actual biologists and what going on verse facebook commenters.

I heard OBT is for sure but without the added APR. Fall 2026 or starting 2027 up in the air still.
OP have any insights into what's actually being passed or not? Seemed in the loop from previous posts.