AMMO,inc to send 1 million bullets to Ukraine

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I absolutely hate the current administration. Not sure how anything I’ve said or typed anywhere could lead somebody to believe I have a “love affair” with those people.

I’m also not a moron who thinks trump is still the president, and the election was stolen, and now the Russians are going to invade the USA because Joe Biden is president.

:rolleyes:

Trying to save face because:

1) the first comment went over your head. Most people would've got it.
2) you clearly don't pay attention to what you read, or, you read only so far until you disagree with something and then react to it by commenting.

Moron? Who's the moron? In this case, the word "assume" only makes an ass out of u...

By the way, I fixed your post above. You're welcome.
 

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:rolleyes:

Trying to save face because:

1) the first comment went over your head. Most people would've got it.
2) you clearly don't pay attention to what you read, or, you read only so far until you disagree with something and then react to it by commenting.

Moron? Who's the moron? In this case, the word "assume" only makes an ass out of u...

By the way, I fixed your post above. You're welcome.

……and you’re the grammar police too. Shocking. Carry on with your world war 3 fantasies. Better check the latest qanon tweet too while you’re at it.
 

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Poland is part of NATO but, I'm not sure where the ammunition would be sent. I read a report that the US was considering shipping fighter jets to Poland and then Poland sending their MIG 29"s to Ukraine, somewhat of a backdoor way to get the jets there without direct shipment by US to Ukraine. Russia does not want a jet that is capable of challenging their air power. I would like to see some A-10's there to help with the fight against tanks and armored troop carriers. They would not be a threat to Su-57 fighter just to ground forces.
The Russian built aircraft are because Ukrainian pilots are already trained to fly them. It is not a back door (we are sending US made Javelins, have approved the transfer of US made ground-to-air missiles, Etc.) but rather a shortcut to avoid the time needed to train pilots on new aircraft.
 

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I don’t think it is a Russian invasion that would be the issue. It is the threat of a Nuclear War

It’s certainly a threat and I highly doubt the US will risk nuclear war (ie planetary extinction) for an attack that is not a direct nuclear threat to the US itself. That being said, for 70 years, nukes have been deterrents against superpower attacks. Putin seemingly blew his wad when he said he would respond to any non nuclear aggression with nuclear aggression. It sounds like his bluff has been called because Western countries have been supplying arms to Ukraine. He keeps repeating his threat for nukes, each time he further losses credibility. He launches those nukes, no way his country doesn’t get annihilated along with the rest of the planet. If he keeps lowering the bar for what he’ll threaten to use nukes for, it’s going to become meaningless. What was once “don’t use your nukes or we’ll use ours” has become “do what I say or I’ll use my nukes.” The world simply can’t tolerate those kinds of threats.

However, at a cost of roughly 1 billion a day to invade Ukraine, a seemingly incompetent and archaic military communicating with analogue comms, an air power that has yet to show up, and a broke citizenry deprived of all modern conveniences, something is going to give.
 
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It’s certainly a threat and I highly doubt the US will risk nuclear war (ie planetary extinction) for an attack that is not a direct nuclear threat to the US itself. That being said, for 70 years, nukes have been deterrents against superpower attacks. Putin seemingly blew his wad when he said he would respond to any non nuclear aggression with nuclear aggression. It sounds like his bluff has been called because Western countries have been supplying arms to Ukraine. He keeps repeating his threat for nukes, each time he further losses credibility. He launches those nukes, no way his country doesn’t get annihilated along with the rest of the planet. If he keeps lowering the bar for what he’ll threaten to use nukes for, it’s going to become meaningless. What was once “don’t use your nukes or we’ll use ours” has become “do what I say or I’ll use my nukes.” The world simply can’t tolerate those kinds of threats.

However, at a cost of roughly 1 billion a day to invade Ukraine, a seemingly incompetent and archaic military communicating with analogue comms, an air power that has yet to show up, and a broke citizenry deprived of all modern conveniences, something is going to give.
I completely agree. I also think we have the capability to detect and shoot down anything they launch from there. I believe he will hit those closer to him before we ever get involved.

He has shown how weak his military truly is. It is the partnership with other big powers that are a problem. The good thing is, our country is physically located in a great place for defense
 

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As far as a ICBM attack on US soil we are pretty much defenseless. Out ground based Mid-course defense system is pretty much a failure. They are based in Cal. and AK. and have been proven useless. Less than a 50% success rate. The Aegis combat system/SM-2 missile is designed to intercept incoming warheads, but that also does not have a high success rate. Maybe that is better than nothing, but any country that would launch an attack of that nature has more than enough launch systems to over come those system of defense. We may have other systems that I am not aware of which have higher success rates. I would hope world leaders are smart enough to know nuclear attacks mean the end of mankind. It's called use them or lose them.
 

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I completely agree. I also think we have the capability to detect and shoot down anything they launch from there. I believe he will hit those closer to him before we ever get involved.

He has shown how weak his military truly is. It is the partnership with other big powers that are a problem. The good thing is, our country is physically located in a great place for defense

I think the concern about the nuclear arsenal is the sheer volume (think 50 nukes at one target), the hypersonic nukes and the 2nd strike options. That being said, who knows with confidence whether or not some or even all launch orders would be followed and if their launch systems are even fully operational. I’d venture all Russian military competency likely in question at this point.
 

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you'd hope that before anyone from Russia would push the button at the whim of a lunatic, someone would just off Putin

I'd hope out military would do the same for a leader thinking about sending nukes just because someone insulted them
 
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As far as a ICBM attack on US soil we are pretty much defenseless. Out ground based Mid-course defense system is pretty much a failure. They are based in Cal. and AK. and have been proven useless. Less than a 50% success rate. The Aegis combat system/SM-2 missile is designed to intercept incoming warheads, but that also does not have a high success rate. Maybe that is better than nothing, but any country that would launch an attack of that nature has more than enough launch systems to over come those system of defense. We may have other systems that I am not aware of which have higher success rates. I would hope world leaders are smart enough to know nuclear attacks mean the end of mankind. It's called use them or lose them.
Just based on my time in the military and being stationed at a couple different Nuclear bases, what you are describing is what we want people to think. What we do have doesn’t get talked about much.
 
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