Ambler road project

[littlebigtine]

Just recieved this from HABR

Time to reach out to congress and the senate

 

[Wrhyne]

Wonder how much money he is personal getting by allowing the road to go forward? This kinda of crap tracks with his record though. . . . . Anyone could have seen this coming.

 

[durangobrad]

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[diamond10x]

Food for thought... The Dalton Hwy had these same sentiments but look how many outdoor enthusiasts use that road now for access to an area that most may not have ever been to afford or ever even thought about.

 

[Antares]

Food for thought... The Dalton Hwy had these same sentiments but look how many outdoor enthusiasts use that road now for access to an area that most may not have ever been to afford or ever even thought about.

That would be a valid point if the Ambler Road was going to be open to the public. It's not.

 

[FranklinBluth]

I think the Dalton comparison is valid - I also believe mining can be done responsibly and it would open up a lot of new country to more of the average guy that can't afford the expensive prices transporters are getting these days.

However if the road isn't open to the public and the minerals aren't staying in the US, I don't see how the juice is worth the squeeze here.

 

[9.3koolaid]

That would be a valid point if the Ambler Road was going to be open to the public. It's not.

Devil's advocate here, wasn't that the plan for the Haul Rd as well?

 

[Antares]

Devil's advocate here, wasn't that the plan for the Haul Rd as well?

That's correct. It was opened to the public after decades of legal challenges. So why are we repeating that? We didn't like it last time... what's changed?

 

[9.3koolaid]

That's correct. It was opened to the public after decades of legal challenges. So why are we repeating that? We didn't like it last time... what's changed?

I say nothing! Should be public day 1

 

[MTtrout]

We have one of the most untouched pieces of lands that very few countries have. Why give it up now? I sure know I’m not gonna gain from this. Nor with my grandkids. Will you make money from this or see savings on future purchases… it’s a damn shame

 

[TopherDave]

Alaska has been exploited for its resources since man crossed the land bridge. The Russians nearly wiped out the sea otter population. They did wipe out the great auk and stellar sea cow. Japanese were exploiting the waters until US fisherman kicked them out in the 80’s. Now the North Pacific Council is ran by a bunch of jokers from Seattle. They don’t care for Alaska, just want the $$$. I see some people following this thread who work in the mining industry, would love to hear their input. Especially you cats who work for Tech, a Canadian owned company. I don’t think they care for Alaska either, just want to exploit the resources and turn a profit for their share holders. Just my opinion.

I’m pretty anti ambler road. Yes we need to resources but we need to do a better job and keep it in the state and country. Yeah, the road will open up possibly some new hunting terrain but also probably not. They’re talking about using tax payer dollars but not making it public accessible. How is that legal?! Something as small as a trail through the woods opens up nesting birds to predation, can you imagine the ecological impacts of a 211 mile road? There are a lot of things to consider, corporate greed shouldn’t be one of them!

 

[Wrench]

As someone who's spent time in that area working, hunting and fishing.....I am happy to see it.

We'll benefit from it soon enough. I am old enough to remember at least 3 different hard dates that earth was supposed to end. Ice age, ozone hole and most recent bullshit carbon credits.

 

[inyago]

Ice ages, Ozone holes and Carbon credits are man made scams. But if Alaska has minerals that there is a commercial demand for then it is only right that Alaskans control the whole process including end sales.
Corporates from outside of Alaska will not give a flying f*** about the place or its people.

 

[Nick4050]

As an AK resident, if the road was open for public travel and the bids for the road/mine project stay with Alaskan owned companies, it'd be a pretty interesting opportunity but I'd still be hesitant to support it.

 

[Patriot2]

The footprint of the road is negligible compared to the vastness of Alaska. We need the minerals. Put in the road. My gosh I have hunted many areas out west where there is an ATV trail every 5-10 miles. Eventually the road will be public and provide hunting access for those that cannot afford fly-in hunts and the like. Just my 2 cents.

 

[Zork]

How much of your taxpayer money are you willing to spend to pay for that road for the foreign corporations to profit off so you can maybe drive the shambles of when they have left it all in ruins for us to again pay to clean up?

 

[littlebigtine]

Quite simply, the Ambler Road project is not by Americans or for Americans. It is not American.

It is to allow a foreign company to gain PRIVATE access to one of the world’s most vast wilderness. This road intersects some of the last Caribou herds not in rapid decline. The aftermath on ecology from road construction like this is devastating. ( the Dalton highway mostly runs parallel to Caribou migrations)

Most importantly this sets a legal precedent for executive orders to override carefully planned futures for these federal lands. Do you really want some orange man who eats mcdonalds every morning to determine the future of our vital resources? Lol

I dont want to make this political but im calling a spade a spade and honestly my point is that I dont want any one person to decide these important futures. It should be a collective effort to decide what these PUBLIC lands are to be used for. We are the PUBLIC after all and they are ours.

 

[TaperPin]

Americans need to start getting fed up with billionaire money giving them special treatment. Mines, even American mines, don’t give two damns about the area, the residents of the state, or opinions of anyone who stands in their way. We have a long rich history of them getting as much money out of the ground as possible and sticking everyone with cleanup costs and remediation that looks like eye sores at best. Anyone that has lived next to a mine will tell you that.

Nothing we say will impact the decision on this road, why would it we don’t have any power, we don’t have deep pockets, we give that power away by electing politicians on both sides that sell out for their biggest campaign contributors. Campaign finance reform is the root of the problem, but writing our congressmen makes us feel like we’re making a difference, even though it’s painfully obvious that falls on deaf ears.

 

[MTtrout]

The footprint of the road is negligible compared to the vastness of Alaska. We need the minerals. Put in the road. My gosh I have hunted many areas out west where there is an ATV trail every 5-10 miles. Eventually the road will be public and provide hunting access for those that cannot afford fly-in hunts and the like. Just my 2 cents.

Really, from what aspect our you referring to where the road is negligible? Think about the ecology of fish and wildlife that have never seen a road or navigated poorly placed culvert before and the implications that follow

You say ‘eventually the road will be publicly available’ so when is that time? Are you or I alive to see it… We the taxpayers will be funding the road and it’s not clear if they ever intend to give public access.

It blows my mind how fast some Americans are at their willingness to give up the things and places that makes our country so great. Specially to a foreign identity!

 

[CJ19]

Does anyone have a link to some reliable information about this company and how people are so certain all these minerals will be of no benefit to united states? I looked at the companies website and government press release. Where are people getting their information that they are posting here?