Am I crazy for expecting a leader ship role vs a lower stress position for close to the same money?

[Tahoe1305]

Thanks for all the great replies everyone! Definitely appreciated,

Here is some reasons I have came up with on why I chose the leadership role,

I have worked hard for several years for the current employer and know where I stand in the company

It’s harder to get a promotion to a leadership position vs stepping down to a worker be position

It’s one of the main things missing from my career resume. I feel like have a leadership role with my current employer looks ever better for potential future job opportunities

If I absolutely hate it I am confident I could find a job like the one I am turning down if needed fairly easily

I have gotten bored in previous jobs but at the same time it aloud my brain to focus on hunting and my hobbies…..


Any advice on my reasons?


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Do it. Only you’ll know.

 

[Jethro]

Thanks for all the great replies everyone! Definitely appreciated,

Here is some reasons I have came up with on why I chose the leadership role,

I have worked hard for several years for the current employer and know where I stand in the company

It’s harder to get a promotion to a leadership position vs stepping down to a worker be position

It’s one of the main things missing from my career resume. I feel like have a leadership role with my current employer looks ever better for potential future job opportunities

If I absolutely hate it I am confident I could find a job like the one I am turning down if needed fairly easily

I have gotten bored in previous jobs but at the same time it aloud my brain to focus on hunting and my hobbies…..


Any advice on my reasons?


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Sincerely, I wish you the best. You crazy fool

 

[dirtshooter]

Thanks for all the great replies everyone! Definitely appreciated,

Here is some reasons I have came up with on why I chose the leadership role,

I have worked hard for several years for the current employer and know where I stand in the company

It’s harder to get a promotion to a leadership position vs stepping down to a worker be position

It’s one of the main things missing from my career resume. I feel like have a leadership role with my current employer looks ever better for potential future job opportunities

If I absolutely hate it I am confident I could find a job like the one I am turning down if needed fairly easily

I have gotten bored in previous jobs but at the same time it aloud my brain to focus on hunting and my hobbies…..


Any advice on my reasons?


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Make them a deal that if you don't like the leadership position you can get your old job back? If they don't like that I guess you'll have no problem deciding to look a new job

 

[SloppyJ]

As a manager, don't take it without a good bump in pay.

 

[rickjames80]

 

[def90]

Do you like your current employer and the people you work with?

Versus moving in to the unknown?

 

[FAAFO]

Neither. Screw work. I have had 17 days on the mountain this month. Can’t do that if a job is tying you down.

 

[Thread Savage]

You said you’re in your 30’s. Assuming you’ve still got 30+ years to work, I’d take the management role. Yes, it will be much more stressful, but you’ll find your stride within a couple years or so, and it won’t be seem that difficult anymore. Play it hard while you’re young so that you’ll have more opportunities available when you’re older.

 

[KBC]

I took on a supervisor position 6 months ago a little reluctantly. Communication from the bosses is/was terrible so I thought they were going to offer me a much more important title and a higher wage than what they ended up offering.

I basically accepted the position for the resume padding and the experience.

There are some great aspects of the job, I’m involved in building people up by getting them training and wage increases. But there are some negatives as well. Some people are whiny little b!tches but you can’t treat them that way.
I imagine one of the worst parts of the job will be when I have to fire someone, but I haven’t had to do that yet.

I’m in aviation maintenance and I don’t touch my tools pretty much ever anymore. My days do fly by though. I pretty much have to stay late everyday because I do not have enough time in the day to complete everything I need to complete. Which is tough with a busy family.

There’s some personal experience from someone who’s had to make a similar decision recently. I still have so much to learn at this so I’m sure the more experienced have some great insights I don’t have yet.

If I were you, no matter what you decide you have to let your current employer know about your other job offer and the details of it.

If you take the leadership role and don’t like it, if your industry is anything like mine, jobs are easy to find. Right now I could make a bunch more money just wrenching but I would have to travel more.

Last item,
Congratulations! You obviously have worked hard to get where you are and deserve at least a pay bump.

 

[Kimber7man]

Are both of these positions salaried?
If so they can work you a lot more than 40.
How well do they reward those who put in 50+ per week?
Keep that in mind.

 

[tim88]

I would be open with the company you're with: we all knew I was getting restless with my current position and I got the offer from another company the same week that I got the offer from you. I like working here, I want the challenge of the new role, can we bump up some pay, benefits, or even a nice sign on bonus.

 

[Radford]

Been through this too. I took the leadership position for a small salary increase. I absolutely love the work. However, one of my employees may be a sociopath, delusional, pathological, all of the above. Working for the government I pretty much can’t do anything to discipline or fire this pos . He’s made false allegations against me for holding him accountable for poor conduct and performance, fights me about everything, and spends more time learning HR loopholes to not do his job rather than just doing his job. Because of that one shit bag I’ve regretted taking the position. If he wasn’t around, I would be very happy in the position.

 

[ShortMagFan]

I didn’t read the whole thread but based on the last page you took the challenge instead of the lazy and comfortable way. Good on you

You’ll never get ahead taking the comfortable way. Yes a challenge might require some short term sacrifice but it will pay off in the long run.

I sacrificed a lot of outdoors time in my late 20s and 30s for my career. Now I’m 51 and own my own farm and had my 53rd sit for whitetail this season this morning.

And I’m still in a leadership role at work so it can be done

 

[PredatorSlayer]

I think it depends on what phase of life you are in. If you have kids at home, I would go with the one that offered the best work life balance. If no kids or kids are grown, go with the one that has the most upside financially.

 

[WhatToHunt]

I didn’t read the whole thread but based on the last page you took the challenge instead of the lazy and comfortable way. Good on you

You’ll never get ahead taking the comfortable way. Yes a challenge might require some short term sacrifice but it will pay off in the long run.

I sacrificed a lot of outdoors time in my late 20s and 30s for my career. Now I’m 51 and own my own farm and had my 53rd sit for whitetail this season this morning.

And I’m still in a leadership role at work so it can be done

Lazy and comfortable sounds pretty nice if the money is good, so long as a person is fulfilled. Difficult because we don't know the OP personally. If it was a close friend who we know well, we might have different advice to share. We'd know more about their background, family goals, definition of success, etc.

For context, this year I hunted 3 states, killed 3 bucks, and helped my son kill a buck - so a lot of time in the outdoors, let alone the family vacations. While I was gone my boss took care of my email inbox and covered meetings on my behalf if needed. And I otherwise kicked ass as a dad and husband, but don't ask for proof, you have to take my word on that.

Lazy and comfortable works for some.
Depends on what motivates a person, I think.

 

[Yoder]

The company where I worked, cancelled our service contract and offered to hire us all directly. I was one of the senior guys, so they offered me an entry level engineering position. I only have an associate degree, so they made an exception for me because of my work experience. This "promotion" was salary, and the staring pay was about $20k less than I made the previous year with overtime, but it was a raise to my base salary. I declined the position and wound up getting hired doing my original maintenance job. The first year, I made $30k more than the salary they offered me. I only work my shift, and I only work OT if I want to. I have way less responsibility which is not always a good thing. I am kind of bored, but I can guarantee I would hate doing endless charts and graphs on my laptop and sitting in on ridiculous meetings way more. I would much rather work on equipment than talk about it.

 

[EdP]

I would take the mgmt job given that you expressed an interest in "padding your resume." That indicates you are interested in moving up. More responsibility and perhaps more stress will come with a mgmt job but it can also mean more job satisfaction and a better situation for your family. If it doesn't work out your present employer is more likely to allow you to step back to your previous job that you obviously were good at.

 

[Balderdash]

A lot of good perspectives on this thread. It really comes down to knowing yourself. Do you work to live or live to work? Are you someone who has trouble working for others, or can you be content playing along and not getting upset with decisions you find wrong or preposterous? Are you looked to as a leader by those you currently work with? None of the answers are really wrong, so long as you're taking care of your responsibilities.

Early in my career, I passed up several promotional opportunities. Was in a very good situation and didn't care for it to change. At one poin my then boss was on extended leave for surgery. I spent half the time he was out moved into his position and the other half reporting to a few guys who were getting rotated in, dependingon staffing. Basically I was scared straight. Got a good look at what reporting to a new boss would likely be and decided it was time to move up myself. Have had a few more promotions since that time. Overall it's been good, but still up in the air if the added stress is worth a little extra pay. I've passed several more promotion opportunities to be one of the the top spots in our organizational chart because I'm still not sure of the answer for me to the stress/pay trade off, and I continually reevaluate the questions I posed earlier.

My old buddy was a logger. He only worked for money when he had to. He hunted and fished more than anyone I ever met. He died in his 60's from cancer. I visited him on his deathbed, and he told me that he never regretted one day of his life that was spent in the field. He stated that in light of his early death, he was supremely pleased with himself that he didn't make his life about money. Then he asked me if every day I spend at work is worth whatever I'm giving up to be there. I went off explaining the financial implications of my situation, where he stopped me and said that if I knew for sure I was going to do something I enjoyed on any given day, why take a chance that I might not enjoy whatever the money I was earning to not do what I enjoyed was going to bring. Still mulling the implications of that question over, but I am certain that I'm going to retire as soon as I'm able.

 

[Weldor]

Pension with existing company? or better one at new job?