Allowing your son/daughter to punch your tag? Thoughts...

[brettdunn7]

If it’s legal I wouldn’t have an issue with it. Especially if I have killed the animal we are hunting before. Sometimes it’s just about the experience with your kid. My brother a lot would pass on deer or work towards getting his son a deer because he has killed many and for him it was more about his sons experience and that was part of his own experience.
I agree with someone else, getting a draw isn’t working and earning it imo. If your kid has been out with you scouting, hiking, shooting, is a good kid, does what they are supposed to at home, stays out of trouble etc then they have earned it and worked for whatever you decide to give them IMO.
Again as long as it’s legal do what you want and don’t give a crap what people on a forum think.


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[wind gypsy]

If it isn't legal you're setting a bad precedent on how to follow game laws. If it is, go for it. Depending on the tag, I'd be a little worried of letting a newby have the holy grail before they can appreciate it. Might make it hard to get excited for what is attainable on an average year.

 

[HuntHarder]

In Az, many, many people put in their wives, grandmas and grandpas to increase their odds of drawing tags. They then build points with 0.0 interest in ever going hunting. When they draw the tag, they can go down to the game and fish office and sign the tag over to the kid.

Catch is, once it is signed over, the kid must use it, not the parent. Just goes to show you that money does buy more hunting tags for families that can afford it. I have mixed feelings on it and see if from both angles. In general tho, I believe in starting kids on antlerless hunts or easier to draw hunts vs. trophy hunts for their first couple hunts. It lowers the pressure on the kids and imo teaches them the right way to approach hunting. When I talk to buddies kids who want "X" many inches on their animal, I usually will not help them on their hunt.

 

[Mike Islander]

That's a big fat no. I wouldn't teach my kid (or anyone) how to lie, nor would I do it myself. Both of you would have to lie to do this.

The act itself is absolutely harmless. Who pulls the trigger under the conditions you describe makes no difference in the outcome. It's teaching them to ignore the law that I would be worried about. Frankly any dad that did that would lose my respect.

 

[AK Troutbum]

So in AK it's legal for someone else to shoot an animal with your tag?

Or legal if it's your kin?

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In some cases, yes (hunts by proxy).
The thread specifically asked if you would allow your kid to shot an animal using your tag, and my answer was, absolutely. In the state of Alaska it’s perfectly legal, and probably even promoted to a certain degree. Fish and game wants kids to participate in hunting, in the hopes that they will grow up and continue to hunt and pass it down to their kids, etc.


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[Jbehredt]

Ima hafta plead the fif on this one.

 

[Theringworm]

If a youth is old enough, has done hunters education and met all of the qualifying criteria to be considered a “hunter” and is thus able to purchase their own license/tag or apply for their own tag, it’s ILLEGAL, unless there is a state or province that specifically allows for this “on the fly-change of ownership of the tag” in the field. I am not aware of any state allowing this to be ok/legal. Now yes, in some states if a youth is too young to qualify as a hunter (I.e. completed hunters Ed, and therefore purchase a hunting license) they can hunt off their parents license/tags. But I have never seen that be applicable to “once in a lifetime tags” - on the fly. There are also states that allow tags to be transferred (typically a relative or whomever else the stipulation is allowed for) but once again, that has to be done PRIOR to being in the field.

Not a chance in the world I would even consider this, if ILLEGAL. If it’s 100% legal then we aren’t even having this discussion. You get busted, now you just brought you child down with you and will be equally as guilty as you. I do not want that on my conscious. I would hope no one else would either.

 

[rclouse79]

I believe in Idaho parents and grandparents are able to sign tags over to their youth hunter. To make it legal and set a good example you would probably have to transfer it over before the hunt.

 

[Middleofnowhere]

Would you let your kid drive your car before they were of legal age?
How about sit in your lap and and put their hands on the steering wheel while you drive?
Both scenarios above in a safe place of course, like on a dirt road or some rural area maybe...

 

[Marble]

Got a really good friend that typically fills his dads tag for him. His dad wants the meat, cant go like he used to. It's what they agree to so no biggie to me.

I would probably let my kids full my tag. Wouldnt bother me ethically or morally.

 

[Ratbeetle]

Would you let your kid drive your car before they were of legal age?
How about sit in your lap and and put their hands on the steering wheel while you drive?
Both scenarios above in a safe place of course, like on a dirt road or some rural area maybe...

But...what about the LAW...

 

[Billy Goat]

Why aren't these kids in school?

I mean if it's a hard to draw tag are you really only weekend hunting?

I was taught work comes first, in this case work is school. Maybe it's a hard pill to swallow but I wasn't ever allowed out of school to hunt, I get it now. Granted now I get to pick my vacation time whereas before I couldn't, but I think it's a good principal. Besides how much can they appreciate it at that age?

 

[AK Troutbum]

Would you let your kid drive your car before they were of legal age?
How about sit in your lap and and put their hands on the steering wheel while you drive?
Both scenarios above in a safe place of course, like on a dirt road or some rural area maybe...

Guilty as charged.


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[Huntindog45]

i wish it was legal. because it is not i cannot support it. its that black and white for me.

 

[canyonhunter47]

I have no ethical issue if it’s legal (and I’m pretty sure it still is in a few places). If there was an easy shot at a forkie on the last day, maybe (only if legal). But I wouldn’t hand them a trophy.

Case in point AZ vs NM youth elk: AZ is cow only for youth. But in NM youth get a bull rifle rut hunt. In NM my family’s kids got their bull of lifetime at like 11 and generally haven’t stayed with it. My brother in AZ got his cows and has stuck with it as an adult

 

[Takem]

My 10 year old daughter or 7 year old son will probably end up using my 18 Utah deer points because they have a program and it's legal. If it's not legal I wouldn't let them. As far as taking time away from school to go hunting I have no problem with that if they keep up with their work.

 

[realunlucky]

My 10 year old daughter or 7 year old son will probably end up using my 18 Utah deer points because they have a program and it's legal. If it's not legal I wouldn't let them. As far as taking time away from school to go hunting I have no problem with that if they keep up with their work.

It isn't legal for non resident children to be mentored in Utah

 

[Takem]

It isn't legal for non resident children to be mentored in Utah

I didn't see that. Looks like I will be using those points.

 

[Elkslayer67]

Kids are going to build off what you teach them. We all have bent the rules. But if you teach your kids to bend the rules a bit how far will they go when on their own? When with my kids I follow the law and explain the law. Hopefully they turn out better than me.

 

[Yukon Cornelius]

So in AK it's legal for someone else to shoot an animal with your tag?

Or legal if it's your kin?

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Depends. Your children are allowed to use your tag if they met the requirements. Child or children. It’s still one tag. I could let my daughter pull a trigger and punch my tag.