All things .308 Win

[igethangry]

Is this the 16” or 20” version?

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[Balderdash]

Why does it have to be either/or?

Why not have both .308s and creeds of all types

This is where I'm at. I celebrate diversity, especially in my gun safes.

Im down to 2 .308's. One is a 99 that's pristine and hasn't been hunting in years. Anyhoo, the .308 are nestled in-between cartridges from .17 HMR to 450.

 

[Ajsomp]

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Well now that I see that I’m debating on the 16” paired one of my suppressors. I was set on a 20”

@Formidilosus is a 20” or 16” the better “set up and never mess with it” type rifle you’ve mentioned before

 

[North of 60]

Something to consider:

For me it depends upon the expected range needed and how thick the vegetation is...

For a woods gun my 16" SFAR with a can is perfect for me.

For longer hunting ranges i would go with a longer barrel in .308

 

[Ozzy841]

Just recently spun a 308 barrel on my tikka. Had several of them over the years but it’s been a while since I’ve shot one. Loaded up some 168 ELD-M’s with the same charge of Varget I always used with 165-168 class bullets. No surprise it shot just under an inch for 10 shots. I’d forgot how easy/forgiving the 308 is to load for. It also shot several different factory loads with boring consistency. As many have stated it may not be the best at anything but it sure is consistent and predictable. I like playing with different stuff as much as anyone, but in all honesty I think a suppressed 308 in a light/medium weight rifle is hard to beat if you want just 1 to do it all. Looking forward to having one set up again.
Great thread.

 

[griff383]

Well put, I always seemed to migrate back to the 308 for deer. Currently running a 16" bolt gun suppressed. Really hard to beat for an all around deer rifle

 

[FredBear86]

Well put, I always seemed to migrate back to the 308 for deer. Currently running a 16" bolt gun suppressed. Really hard to beat for an all around deer rifle

What bullet you shooting here? I'm shooting same thing a 16" suppressed and shooting 165 fusions and they normally bout just tip over but always seem to be looking for something better.

 

[Formidilosus]

@Formidilosus is a 20” or 16” the better “set up and never mess with it” type rifle you’ve mentioned before

Depends on what the use is and ranges. The MV is low enough with 168’ish grain bullets that for all-around use to 600+ yards? I generally like an 18” or 20” to work with quick drop. However, if that doesn’t matter to you, or if most of the shooting is 400’ish yards and in- the 16” without question.

 

[Ajsomp]

Depends on what the use is and ranges. The MV is low enough with 168’ish grain bullets that for all-around use to 600+ yards? I generally like an 18” or 20” to work with quick drop. However, if that doesn’t matter to you, or if most of the shooting is 400’ish yards and in- the 16” without question.

I have an 18” 223 and 18” 6 creed so I don’t “need” it - however I have killed with one in the past and wouldn’t mind a 308 back in my safe. Would mostly serve as a back up to my 6 creed but also something to train/shoot with year round as an alternative to my 223. If it were a 400 and in east coast rifle, it would be that 16” all day long. But shooting factory ammo the 20” is where I’m leaning for 600 and in.

 

[Formidilosus]

I have an 18” 223 and 18” 6 creed so I don’t “need” it - however I have killed with one in the past and wouldn’t mind a 308 back in my safe. Would mostly serve as a back up to my 6 creed but also something to train/shoot with year round as an alternative to my 223. If it were a 400 and in east coast rifle, it would be that 16” all day long. But shooting factory ammo the 20” is where I’m leaning for 600 and in.

Suppressed?

 

[Ajsomp]

Suppressed?

Well I’m not a heathen, so yes.

 

[Formidilosus]

Well I’m not a heathen, so yes.

Quite correct. 18”.

 

[sierracharlie338]

Well now that I see that I’m debating on the 16” paired one of my suppressors. I was set on a 20”

@Formidilosus is a 20” or 16” the better “set up and never mess with it” type rifle you’ve mentioned before

IMO I think 18 is the sweet spot for a suppressed 308. I carried one for years and became quite fond of it.

 

[griff383]

What bullet you shooting here? I'm shooting same thing a 16" suppressed and shooting 165 fusions and they normally bout just tip over but always seem to be looking for something better.

Factory Hornady whitetail 150sp, they shoot right around 1"@100yds for me. I wouldn't say they tip over but I've never had one go far, maybe I need to try fusions next year.

 

[SC HUNTER]

All this 308 talk has me wanting another one. I've got a heavy barreled 700 in 308 stuck back, I'm looking around at lighter weight ones. It will probably be a tikka or an xbolt. We shall see. I need the youngest kid to get old enough to shoot so I can buy him guns for me to try out.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

IMO I think 18 is the sweet spot for a suppressed 308. I carried one for years and became quite fond of it.

I’m quite fond of 20”. Even carrying slung, no issues in brush/timber. Touch more velocity than the shorties,

 

[Hondo64d]

I’m quite fond of 20”. Even carrying slung, no issues in brush/timber. Touch more velocity than the shorties,

That’s my choice too. My place is generally open country hunting and the shorter 6” suppressor helps too.

John

 

[sierracharlie338]

I’m quite fond of 20”. Even carrying slung, no issues in brush/timber. Touch more velocity than the shorties,

That’s my choice too. My place is generally open country hunting and the shorter 6” suppressor helps too.

John

To be fair the rifle started as a 20 but was threaded 9/16x24 and I didn’t want to run an adapter back then so it got chopped and threaded at 18.

I’ll concede and say 18-20 is where it’s at

 

[Stinky Coyote]

If you were to try and find the smaller siblings to the 308 what would they be? 6.5 Grendel, 6 ARC?

6.5 Grendel, 123gr eldm, but at factory ammo pressure it's a bit slower in a same barrel length, I think if you reload to bolt gun pressures you'd be almost identical to a 308 168gr eldm. Basically identical bc and sd and pretty close to same muzzle velocity. If shooting grendel factory ammo just run another 4" on the barrel perhaps to mirror the 308. Take with grain of salt, I'm generalizing. Otherwise same unlimited barrel life and about 55% less recoil factory ammo to factory ammo with grendel.

In theory a 6.5 GT with those 123's might be the perfect mirror to a 308 168 and not need to be hot loads to equal the fps in given barrel length? I shoot factory only and only grendels and 308s in house here. We just hunt, nothing else. Would be cool to see if a 6.5 GT 123 eldm combo became popular for those that value everything about 308 but would like a bit less recoil. It's obviously designed for competition stuff but can see the potential for it outside of that and mirroring everything a 308 does with say ~40% less recoil would not be a bad target for something 'new'...imo.

 

[Stinky Coyote]

Well, regardless of this weird tit for tat…my opinion is the .308 is a fantastic cartridge…based on my experiences.

• Pretty easy to get a rifle to shoot well with most factory ammo.
• Can shoot a variety of projectiles.
• Shoots well with different barrel lengths.
• Easy to hand load with good results.
• Relatively cheap to reload.
• Great barrel life.
• It’s “inherently accurate.”
• When braked or suppressed, there’s very little recoil.
• And last, but not least….it kills stuff and fills my freezers.

nearly covers it all, what about resale? does anyone even bat an eye on used 308's as potentially being 'shot out'?