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my ten year old nephew tossed a couple of 168 TMK’s out of an SFAR at some fur in the last week. A couple at a young bull moose, and a couple at a small whitetail.

First pic is under the shoulder of the moose, second is a ruined moose hindquarter from a follow-up on the run, the third is a poor little deer that got turned inside-out.

All impacts around 2400 FPS.
 

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my ten year old nephew tossed a couple of 168 TMK’s out of an SFAR at some fur in the last week. A couple at a young bull moose, and a couple at a small whitetail.

First pic is under the shoulder of the moose, second is a ruined moose hindquarter from a follow-up on the run, the third is a poor little deer that got turned inside-out.

All impacts around 2400 FPS.

That’s brutal. Mind if I ask, why TMK? I feel like there’d be less meat loss/damage with a hunting bullet. (I am aware of the small caliber match bullets being used in lieu in the .223’s etc)


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That’s brutal. Mind if I ask, why TMK? I feel like there’d be less meat loss/damage with a hunting bullet. (I am aware of the small caliber match bullets being used in lieu in the .223’s etc)


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Good question because I wouldn’t want to use it either honestly. Strictly perfect behind the shoulder shots only.

His father would not get behind the idea of him shooting something smaller. He’s not a big kid, and only as good of a shooter as a 10 year old shooting a 308 could be. He does good at the range, but I knew there was the potential for some less than stellar shooting in the moment.

My thought process was that if we were going to get all of the downsides of the 308 namely the recoil (not my idea), we may as well just throw hand grenades at whatever we were shooting in hopes to balance out some potential vital misses. Scorched earth.

That said, he is a stone cold killer and 100% delivered. We made the comparison to a machine gunner in Normandy the way he handled that moose off of his tripod.

Him and his father officially asked if I could load something that is a little more gentle on the animals tonight. Haha
 
Good question because I wouldn’t want to use it either honestly. Strictly perfect behind the shoulder shots only.

His father would not get behind the idea of him shooting something smaller. He’s not a big kid, and only as good of a shooter as a 10 year old shooting a 308 could be. He does good at the range, but I knew there was the potential for some less than stellar shooting in the moment.

My thought process was that if we were going to get all of the downsides of the 308 namely the recoil (not my idea), we may as well just throw hand grenades at whatever we were shooting in hopes to balance out some potential vital misses. Scorched earth.

That said, he is a stone cold killer and 100% delivered. We made the comparison to a machine gunner in Normandy the way he handled that moose off of his tripod.

Him and his father officially asked if I could load something that is a little more gentle on the animals tonight. Haha

Fair enough! Nice kills either way!


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my ten year old nephew tossed a couple of 168 TMK’s out of an SFAR at some fur in the last week. A couple at a young bull moose, and a couple at a small whitetail.

First pic is under the shoulder of the moose, second is a ruined moose hindquarter from a follow-up on the run, the third is a poor little deer that got turned inside-out.

All impacts around 2400 FPS.
Could drive a VW bug through that shoulder!
 
Could drive a VW bug through that shoulder!
Yeah, it is pretty ugly. I’m going to be skinning it tomorrow morning.

The kicker is, somehow the deer stayed on its feet and ran away. So my little stone cold killer put one where the sun doesn’t shine…

No pics of that yet, but apparently one of the hindquarters is basically only attached by skin.
 
Yeah, it is pretty ugly. I’m going to be skinning it tomorrow morning.

The kicker is, somehow the deer stayed on its feet and ran away. So my little stone cold killer put one where the sun doesn’t shine…

No pics of that yet, but apparently one of the hindquarters is basically only attached by skin.
Maybe I won’t load those things in my 308 😂
 
I’m shooting 165 Tipped Game Kings over 8208 out of my .308 Tikka. They are a good balance of accuracy and terminal performance. Good expansion but not as much meat damage as the Amax, ELDM or TMK. They’re back in stock after being unobtanium for a few months.
 
Primary Arms was blowing out Aero Precision Solus actions at stupid low prices, so I couldn’t pass up that opportunity. Ordered a Criterion MTU contour blank, to be delivered to Jon Beanland, for fitting to the Solus action. The intent was to use this rifle in some casual PRS Tactical Division matches. Jon fitted and delivered the barreled action crazy quick.

I need to throw this in there…. Jon Beanland is the best ‘smith I have ever used and there is no one that does better work. I have used several top name gunsmiths and while they have all done great work, none have done better than Jon Beanland. I highly encourage anyone looking to have precision rifle work done to consider Jon Beanland.

Anyway, I picked a powder and charge that had worked well for me in previous .308s, 44 gr Varget, and loaded that charge, .3gr above and .3 gr below, and five extra rounds for zeroing, behind the 174gr Hornady ELD-VT. The 174gr ELD-VT, to my knowledge, has the highest BC of any .308 bullet in that weight range, so I thought it might be good for the PRS Tac Division. First shot of 43.7gr, to my surprise, immediately showed excessive pressure with heavy bolt lift and ejector swipes. It took two rounds to zero and then went ahead and fired the remaining 13 rounds of 43.7gr into the group shown. A 13 shot group of just a hair over MOA with no load development is very promising and I think this rifle is going to be a shooter.

When I got back to the house, I pulled the 44 and 44.3gr charges, resized the brass and loaded 43 and 43.3gr to try. If neither one of those shoots to my liking, I’ll try 168gr TMKs, which shoot very well in my hunting rig.

John





 
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