Alberta Bighorn Outfitter Recommendation

[dirtshooter]

The funniest part is that we are entitled residents.

 

[ljalberta]

FYI. For anyone wanting to know the numbers, there’s mandatory Alberta registration and it’s public information. The last 2 years have had the highest number of rams killed by non residents out of the previous 10 years, including 51 last year (the most in at least a decade). You can find out the total outfitter sheep tag allocation and calculate the exact odds Alberta non-residents have had for the past 10 years.

Last year, residents also killed the most rams in at least the past decade at 149. On a 10 year average, residents kill 122 rams and non residents on guided hunts kill 34, although that number is artificially skewed lower due to a restriction on travel in 2020.

Considering there are thousands of residents buying sheep tags, it seems like non-residents are doing just fine. Last year non-residents shot over 25% of the rams. Almost hard to believe considering they were all supposed to be killed before the non-residents could even begin their hunt. It’s also quite hard to do the “maths” on the ram numbers being “way down” (as noted by 41thunder) when the numbers are in fact at the top end of the past decade and significantly above average the past few years.

Anyway, there’s lots of issues out there still. Some of the funnier ones are seeing outfitters harassing the wild sheep and chasing them away from resident hunters.

 

[dirtshooter]

FYI. For anyone wanting to know the numbers, there’s mandatory Alberta registration and it’s public information. The last 2 years have had the highest number of rams killed by non residents out of the previous 10 years, including 51 last year (the most in at least a decade). You can find out the total outfitter sheep tag allocation and calculate the exact odds Alberta non-residents have had for the past 10 years.

Last year, residents also killed the most rams in at least the past decade at 149. On a 10 year average, residents kill 122 rams and non residents on guided hunts kill 34, although that number is artificially skewed lower due to a restriction on travel in 2020.

Considering there are thousands of residents buying sheep tags, it seems like non-residents are doing just fine. Last year non-residents shot over 25% of the rams. Almost hard to believe considering they were all supposed to be killed before the non-residents could even begin their hunt. It’s also quite hard to do the “maths” on the ram numbers being “way down” (as noted by 41thunder)when the numbers are in fact at the top end of the past decade and significantly above average the past few years.

Anyway, there’s lots of issues out there still. Some of the funnier ones are seeing outfitters harassing the wild sheep and chasing them away from resident hunters.

Heard about outfitters threatening resident hunters in the mountains and chasing sheep away like you say.

I'm surprised at the numbers, quite a bit more sheep taken than I thought.

 

[Fullcry]

I think anyone you hunt with in Alberta is a crap shoot.

It's tough.

I hunted with Scott Carter in 2021 and shot an 8 1/2 YO as aged by the bio.

It's not a big ram by any means and I hunted my balls off for him.

Shot him on day 11 and he was the only legal ram we saw and probably saw less than 10 rams total.

It was a tough, mental grueling hunt.

To Scott's credit, he told me I could stay until I shot a ram and I fully intended to whether it was 11 days or 30 days. I told my wife I wasn't coming home until I got one (which was a slight exaggeration but I was going to stay from September 1-October 1 if necessary).

All that being said, I probably wouldn't hunt with Carter's again or anyone else in Alberta. It's just a tough, low percentage success hunt and I'm forever grateful I shot one as it was my slam ram.

I saw a few comments about Andre and Willow Creek and he was my second choice and recommended by Mike Ukrainetz who I've hunted with 4-5 times for bears. Andre seems like a good guy but I went with Carter Outfitting instead.

Hello!
I saw your message on hunting with Mike. He has been recommended to me. I’m interested in hunting a Blond Bear. Do you think he could produce or even have a chance?

 

[41thunder]

You’re a funny gal, I don’t know your end goal, but good luck on your endeavour LOL. I’m going hunting for 16 days. Maybe see you out there.

I’m here to tell the truth. Regardless of who’s feeling get the

FYI. For anyone wanting to know the numbers, there’s mandatory Alberta registration and it’s public information. The last 2 years have had the highest number of rams killed by non residents out of the previous 10 years, including 51 last year (the most in at least a decade). You can find out the total outfitter sheep tag allocation and calculate the exact odds Alberta non-residents have had for the past 10 years.

Last year, residents also killed the most rams in at least the past decade at 149. On a 10 year average, residents kill 122 rams and non residents on guided hunts kill 34, although that number is artificially skewed lower due to a restriction on travel in 2020.

Considering there are thousands of residents buying sheep tags, it seems like non-residents are doing just fine. Last year non-residents shot over 25% of the rams. Almost hard to believe considering they were all supposed to be killed before the non-residents could even begin their hunt. It’s also quite hard to do the “maths” on the ram numbers being “way down” (as noted by 41thunder) when the numbers are in fact at the top end of the past decade and significantly above average the past few years.

Anyway, there’s lots of issues out there still. Some of the funnier ones are seeing outfitters harassing the wild sheep and chasing them away from resident hunters.

The numbers this year are way down
Because the harvest rates since Covid have gone through the roof.

 

[ljalberta]

I’m here to tell the truth. Regardless of who’s feeling get the

The numbers this year are way down
Because the harvest rates since Covid have gone through the roof.

What are they down to? Their historical averages?

 

[41thunder]

What are they down to? Their historical averages?

Last year they didn’t release any harvest numbers until they did their little seminar at the wsfab event. I’m assuming that will be the same.

 

[dirtshooter]

Very unlikely
I leave for Tajikistan on Thursday.
I’ve hunted 40 plus days so far this fall in the yukon, bc and states. Spent the long weekend trying to get my buddy’s daughter and nephew their Mulie buck draws. And it reminded me why I would rather work than hunt here. Whiny residents complaining about opportunities. Well those “opportunities” have hammered all the ungulate populations to oblivion.

Yeah but the only thing you put in your little kuiu pack Mark are boxes of little debbies and twinkies.

 

[41thunder]

Yeah but the only thing you put in your little kuiu pack Mark are boxes of little debbies and twinkies.

You keep shooting your 130” whitetails
And I’ll keep killing 61” sheep
You talk a lot for someone who can’t back anything up and who will never ever do anything of significance

 

[41thunder]

Yeah but the only thing you put in your little kuiu pack Mark are boxes of little debbies and twinkies.

Don’t worry I’ll find out who you are, and we will have a great conversation in person

 

[dirtshooter]

You keep shooting your 130” whitetails
And I’ll keep killing 61” sheep
You talk a lot for someone who can’t back anything up and who will never ever do anything of significance

Not going to mention that big elk I killed solo? Never in a million years would you have been able to do that without the help of a guide and his wranglers.

 

[41thunder]

Not going to mention that big elk I killed solo? Never in a million years would you have been able to do that without the help of a guide and his wranglers.

That wasn’t big lol

 

[41thunder]

Not going to mention that big elk I killed solo? Never in a million years would you have been able to do that without the help of a guide and his wranglers.

You know why I hunt out of country? Because alberta is boring. I’ve shot a b&c animal of almost every species

 

[dirtshooter]

You know why I hunt out of country? Because alberta is boring. I’ve shot a b&c animal of almost every species

Yeah, all with the help of guides. I'm sure all your FB followers are very impressed and I'm sure all the likes and reactions give you that dopamine rush of excitement. They love you, you love you.

 

[ljalberta]

You know why I hunt out of country? Because alberta is boring. I’ve shot a b&c animal of almost every species

It’s the internet man. Relax.

 

[dirtshooter]

That wasn’t big lol

Big enough you'd never be able to haul it out by yourself.

 

[41thunder]

Big enough you'd never be able to haul it out by yourself.

Dumb ass I shot a bison by myself

 

[dirtshooter]

And you got it out with what motor vehicle? sled/argo/truck. How far from the road was it?

Dumb ass I shot a bison by myself

 

[41thunder]

And you got it out with what motor vehicle? sled/argo/truck. How far from the road was it?

See a comment like that just shows how dumb you are. Do you understand that a bison is 3-4x and big as an elk. Especially a runt like the one you shot.

 

[AlbertaFisher]

And you got it out with what motor vehicle? sled/argo/truck. How far from the road was it?

Don’t give him any attention, he’s just trying to get a rise out of you. He’s clearly not in Kyrgyzstan, he’s probably on his couch with crumbs on his belly since he’s exerting so much effort slinging shit at you. Congrats on your epic elk man, read about it on AO!